Who was the hero?

Started by ShaKoon3 pages

Who was the hero?

was it Sam or Frodo?

ooooo. tough one. im a fan of sam.

i think frodo hcould withstand the ring, as could sam, but mnot as long. but sam did not give in to fear and pain. but still endured and rikinddled his flame and frodo's as well, so sam.

😕 to me it more seemed that the friendship between them was the hero, each of them alone would have been nothing...
I think Tolkien perfectly showed that one person alone can hardly be a hero... for me, that was one of the basic statements in the books dontgetit

to choose one over the other misses the whole point of the story, thereby indicating you did not read the book fully. in truth, frodo did bear the weight of the responsibility as he was/is the ring bearer. but his strength and courage was or is derived from his friendship in sam. as for sam, truthfully it was love and loyalty for frodo for being where he was

if not that, then more than likely sam would be comfortably living in the shire sipping his pint of ale and ogling rose from a distant and not daring to do a thing about it

that question you ask although thought provoking is without validy as it is quite moot

The hero was them both. Frodo carried the ring, but as he said at the end of the two towers movie, "Frodo wouldn't have gotten far without sam."

and shakoon is a dip.

I think it was both of them. Frodo wouldn't have gotten as far as he did without Sam's help.

Originally posted by Naib
to choose one over the other misses the whole point of the story, thereby indicating you did not read the book fully. in truth, frodo did bear the weight of the responsibility as he was/is the ring bearer. but his strength and courage was or is derived from his friendship in sam. as for sam, truthfully it was love and loyalty for frodo for being where he was

if not that, then more than likely sam would be comfortably living in the shire sipping his pint of ale and ogling rose from a distant and not daring to do a thing about it

that question you ask although thought provoking is without validy as it is quite moot

I agree, but what i understand from shakoon's post is what he meant "who deserved the heroship/glory more" maybe hero, wasnt the wisest chice of words, insted i think he meant who deserved more glory.

Saberstylemasta keep it up, and the moderator's will ban you! 😠

Originally posted by ShaKoon
Saberstylemasta keep it up, and the moderator's will ban you! 😠

I'm aware, though I could get a good amount of signatures to get YOU banned as well.

oh.. and give up already kid. your a 10-year old, stop cussing, you.

Originally posted by ShaKoon
oh.. and give up already kid. your a 10-year old, stop cussing, you.

Did I cuss anywhere, and It's on my birth certificate. the day I was born. September 19, 1991. Do the math you tark, Am I ten? I think not.

Actually, almost every character had some involvement with the destruction of the ring. Lots of characters could be considered heros. Gollum, in fact, had the most direct impact on the doom of Sauron.

Despite his madness, he is not pure evil. He is both the 'hero' and the 'villian' in some ways.
He found the ring.
He lost the ring.
He helped frodo.
He betrayed frodo.
He bit Frodo's finger and fell in the lava destroying the ring. Otherwise Frodo would wind up Gollums position and the story cycles.

Jrlark386, he gave "all" of us two people to sam or frodo. otherwise i think wed all chose anyone, lol.

Bck to the whole "cursing aspect, no shakoon he didnt curse, the onlything he's guilty of is being"sarcastic/rude." which you can't report people on, unless its consistent/ or its harrasment, which is what he didnt do. so both of you "shhh.." and let the thread get back to normal.
Thank you
Your fiendly peace keeper
Adurûth

yes, i would NOT like to argue with saberstylemasta, he sent me some messages CUSSING, but i would not like to talk about it,

if there was no frodo, the ring would not be destroyed, if there was no sam, frodo would die (maybe) and keep the ring, so i think they have to go together. (why does everyone say that sam & frodo are well.... together, y'know what i am talking about, it is really weird

and... i don't think anyone else noticed this, but i did

i don't think that when frodo got his finger bit off, he was angry at gollum for that, he was angry because gollum took the ring from frodo

Originally posted by ShaKoon
yes, i would NOT like to argue with saberstylemasta, he sent me some messages CUSSING, but i would not like to talk about it,

if there was no frodo, the ring would not be destroyed, if there was no sam, frodo would die (maybe) and keep the ring, so i think they have to go together. (why does everyone say that sam & frodo are well.... together, y'know what i am talking about, it is really weird

Originally posted by ShaKoon
and... i don't think anyone else noticed this, but i did

i don't think that when frodo got his finger bit off, he was angry at gollum for that, he was angry because gollum took the ring from frodo

Please stop double posting. You are VERY infamous for this.

isnt there already a thread thats about this 😖

i coulda sworn i'd seen one 😖...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27508&perpage=20&highlight=was+frodo+the+hero&pagenumber=1

i think this thread goes over this topic 😖...

yeah....this thread isn't doing anything...just, festering 😐

use the link Fee posted...and don't double post...edit your first post Shakoon...

They all pulled their own part to make the story i mean Frodo and Sam couldnt get anywhere without the fellowship, but if i had to pick id say sam beacause frodo would of screwed it up ith the beggining by putting the ring on. But gollum did help but eating frodo 💃 💃 GO GOLLUM EAT FRODO