to choose one over the other misses the whole point of the story, thereby indicating you did not read the book fully. in truth, frodo did bear the weight of the responsibility as he was/is the ring bearer. but his strength and courage was or is derived from his friendship in sam. as for sam, truthfully it was love and loyalty for frodo for being where he was
if not that, then more than likely sam would be comfortably living in the shire sipping his pint of ale and ogling rose from a distant and not daring to do a thing about it
that question you ask although thought provoking is without validy as it is quite moot
Originally posted by Naib
to choose one over the other misses the whole point of the story, thereby indicating you did not read the book fully. in truth, frodo did bear the weight of the responsibility as he was/is the ring bearer. but his strength and courage was or is derived from his friendship in sam. as for sam, truthfully it was love and loyalty for frodo for being where he wasif not that, then more than likely sam would be comfortably living in the shire sipping his pint of ale and ogling rose from a distant and not daring to do a thing about it
that question you ask although thought provoking is without validy as it is quite moot
I agree, but what i understand from shakoon's post is what he meant "who deserved the heroship/glory more" maybe hero, wasnt the wisest chice of words, insted i think he meant who deserved more glory.
Actually, almost every character had some involvement with the destruction of the ring. Lots of characters could be considered heros. Gollum, in fact, had the most direct impact on the doom of Sauron.
Despite his madness, he is not pure evil. He is both the 'hero' and the 'villian' in some ways.
He found the ring.
He lost the ring.
He helped frodo.
He betrayed frodo.
He bit Frodo's finger and fell in the lava destroying the ring. Otherwise Frodo would wind up Gollums position and the story cycles.
Jrlark386, he gave "all" of us two people to sam or frodo. otherwise i think wed all chose anyone, lol.
Bck to the whole "cursing aspect, no shakoon he didnt curse, the onlything he's guilty of is being"sarcastic/rude." which you can't report people on, unless its consistent/ or its harrasment, which is what he didnt do. so both of you "shhh.." and let the thread get back to normal.
Thank you
Your fiendly peace keeper
Adurûth
yes, i would NOT like to argue with saberstylemasta, he sent me some messages CUSSING, but i would not like to talk about it,
if there was no frodo, the ring would not be destroyed, if there was no sam, frodo would die (maybe) and keep the ring, so i think they have to go together. (why does everyone say that sam & frodo are well.... together, y'know what i am talking about, it is really weird
Originally posted by ShaKoon
yes, i would NOT like to argue with saberstylemasta, he sent me some messages CUSSING, but i would not like to talk about it,if there was no frodo, the ring would not be destroyed, if there was no sam, frodo would die (maybe) and keep the ring, so i think they have to go together. (why does everyone say that sam & frodo are well.... together, y'know what i am talking about, it is really weird
Originally posted by ShaKoon
and... i don't think anyone else noticed this, but i didi don't think that when frodo got his finger bit off, he was angry at gollum for that, he was angry because gollum took the ring from frodo
Please stop double posting. You are VERY infamous for this.
i think this thread goes over this topic 😖...