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[*]Chaos Control
This isn't a speed trick. This is warping space and time to appear like you are either teleporting or moving really fast.
[*]Lightspeed dash
He can only maintain this while traveling along a line of rings, as soon as the rings run out he's back down to Mach 1
[*]Super Sonic
Sonic would need to collect the 7 chaos emeralds. And even then he doesn't move THAT much faster. . maybe about Mach 2.
[*]Hyper Sonic
Sonic would need to collect the 7 chaos emeralds AND then the 7 Hyper emeralds. And even then he doesn't move THAT much faster than super sonic. . maybe about Mach 3.
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Flash with speed force is like 10 times the speed of light, which is faster than normal Flash which is lightspeed which is faster than Hyper sonic's Mach 3, Which is faster than Super Sonic's Mach 2, which is faster than normal Sonic's Mach 1
C10>C>m3>m2>m
Even powered up Sonic can't come close to Flash's Speed.
And when Flash powers up Sonic will never EVER reach anything ANYWHERE near Flash's speed.
Originally posted by ArbiterChaos control warps time and space. you are not moving any faster. Go play SA2 again and watch the cinematic when Sonic Meets shadow for the first time.
Chaos Control allows someone to move faster then time
"It's not his speed, he's using that chaos emerald ..."
Chaos control is not a speed tactic.
Originally posted by Darth MantisChaos control is teleporting, Speed force is manipulating speed movement.
So Sonic's Chaos Control is faster than Flash's Speed force or is it the other way around?
This fight already said not outside powers. Chaos control is an outside power.