Havok vs. Carnage

Started by Timslar4 pages

Yes, he can emit the energy form any part of him. (Had a fun time against the Hulk one time, and tried to blow him up afer absorbing some of his power. =P) but I meant about this sneaking his energy through the grass....are you sure about that?

See energy can go through any matter - If Havok can force it out of any part of his body and really focus on controlling the dispersment of that energy, he can pulse engery through grass, buildings, up, down and anywhere he desire. - Of course this would take serious energy and massive concentration and practice. But an adult Havok should be able to do this no prob.

I am not sure why that would be a problem for him.

Yes all of his cells absorb ambient cosmic energy, store it and metabolize it in order to generate waves of superheated plasma. That allows him to emit omnidirectional attacks.

But I don't think he can control the plasma (which is technically matter not energy) he creates in the same way that Pyro can control fire and I don't think Havok has any control of any form of energy in the manner you're suggesting.

He can emit plasma from any part of him, but if he does it from a single part, his hands for example, it's monodirectional. I don't remember ever seeing him fire a curved blast etc.
I only recall him usually firing from his hands in a straight trajectory or attacking omnidirectionally.

BTW What do you mean by an "adult Havok"?

Havok can decide the level of energy he emits, when he was going to marry Lorna, then discovered he loves Annie, to escape from his former girlfriend he jumped miles away using his energy to propel himself, Annie and Carter in a sort of super jump.

i still say havok

"Yes all of his cells absorb ambient cosmic energy, store it and metabolize it in order to generate waves of superheated plasma. That allows him to emit omnidirectional attacks.

But I don't think he can control the plasma (which is technically matter not energy) he creates in the same way that Pyro can control fire and I don't think Havok has any control of any form of energy in the manner you're suggesting.

He can emit plasma from any part of him, but if he does it from a single part, his hands for example, it's monodirectional. I don't remember ever seeing him fire a curved blast etc.
I only recall him usually firing from his hands in a straight trajectory or attacking omnidirectionally."

^------What I was thinking.

Havok melts him.

What if Carnage uses his projectile ability to create a deadly boomerang; and when Havok is shooting him, PYYIIIIOOOWWWWW; right in the back of the Head. Then it's "FATALITY".

Then Carnage goes Mortal Kombat on his ass.

I love how carnage is sooo underrated here, carnage would dodge the blasts and his spikes can go off like machine gun fire.

Carnage is MUCH faster stronger and able to climb on walls, he has a projectile attack too.

He sure as hell beats cyclops.

I dunno. I still give this fight to Havok.

And Cyclops would murder Carnage. Cyke is just too good for Carnage.

Nono, Carnage is absurdly powerful, I understand that cyke is, but give him the slim chance that a guy like wolverine has a chance of actually getting in close, and multiply it by 10, carnage is THAT fast.

Even with his weakness exploited, it takes superhuman amounts of damage to put an end to him.

I do understand that, don't get me wrong. But Cyke is a freakin surgeon with his optic blasts. He won't miss any shot he takes, especially if Carnage attempts to snake his way closer to Cyke. Ol' Slim will take out anything that tries to come his way.

I see now that I may have used the wrong terminology when describing that Cyclops would win, cuz I don't think it would be an easy victory. But I do believe that given Cyclops expert experience and control, he would be able to keep Carnage away and keep chipping away at him.

Remember, Cyke also has a much more powerful, earth-shattering blast when he takes his visor off. I'd say that would do some damage.

Yall act like Carnage operate on Human Speed or something. Their is no tell how fast he is and the velocity he can shoot his projectile. Remember Carnage is also his personality. The Good guys may be soft By Carnage is the evil or all evil. He's Carnage - he go for the jug. right off the bat.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I do understand that, don't get me wrong. But Cyke is a freakin surgeon with his optic blasts. He won't miss any shot he takes, especially if Carnage attempts to snake his way closer to Cyke. Ol' Slim will take out anything that tries to come his way.

Agreed, but cyke also would need ALOT of damage to hope to keep them down.

Spiderman would dodge those shots with ease himself, also keep in mind that carnage has a milder danger sense.
One hit and cyke or havok are down.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I see now that I may have used the wrong terminology when describing that Cyclops would win, cuz I don't think it would be an easy victory. But I do believe that given Cyclops expert experience and control, he would be able to keep Carnage away and keep chipping away at him.

Yes, but again it took Venom FF and spiderman to take him down, projectiles alone aren't enough to take care of carnage, I'm pretty sure carnage has the priority here and more options.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Remember, Cyke also has a much more powerful, earth-shattering blast when he takes his visor off. I'd say that would do some damage.

Yes, that is true, but what good what it do if he missed?

No visor =not good for cyclops.

If carnage were more popular, you'd get a lot more showings on how strong he it, optic blasts would slow him down, but 1 of his projeciles, would put them out.

I agree. One shot would indeed take out both Cyclops and Havok. I will not deny that.

And I also agree that it would take a lot tp put down Carnage.

So, all in all, I agree with you.

I agree to agree to agree to agree to....

HEY this poll can't end at 9-9 Somebody is dead and somebody is living. Who is it?

Don't worry about polls too much, they're popularity contests most of the time.

hence threads like, wolverine vs living tribunal, wolverine wins.

Oh OK - whom ever voted for Wolvy should get spiked like a Vollleyball or Ice Picked - choose one

They've left the forum long ago...