Re: Sidious Fighting Style
Originally posted by jpsmith5
Out of all the star wars characters the only one who exhibited real Japanese sword skills was Darth Sidious. This was pretty amazing since Gillard said that all the Jedi and Sith characters exhibited Japanese sword skills.
This is a line of bullshit.
Show me where Sidious uses a Japanese sword style. If he DOES use a Japanese fightin style, it must be learned from a blind village idiot, because he doesn't swing the blade properly or use it correctly. No one swings a katana over their head and twirls, striking over their shoulder, much less the little Psycho Crusher ballerina move he does.
Re: Sidious Fighting Style
Originally posted by jpsmith5
First of all, do you have any experience with Japanese sword fighting and the Japanese Martial Art System? Because if you do you can tell me what the twirling over the head refers to in the Kenjutsu System.
You're a fool! Do you even realize how many Sword styles use above the head strikes? Hell, even Dooku's form, which is based apon Spanish fencing uses some above the head strikes. For christs sakes, American Military Saberists back in the days used those kind of strikes! The Samurai style of Kenjutsu is not the only style to use these kind of strikes.
Oh and by the way, Sidious doesn't use alot of Japanese swordplay in his battle with Mace Windu. Shit, even his stabs with the stabs to Agen and Sassee are both based on Ancient Japanese Swordplay.
So the question here is....
Do you have any experience with Japanese sword fighting, let alone ANY sword fighting of any sort?
Sidious Fighting Style
Evidently, since you know nothing about the Way of the Japanese Sword. The constant twirling overhead is more of a psychological move to draw your opponent in to expose them to a fatal blow. It's a method of Togakure Ryu which is known as Taijitsu Bikenjutsu. Simply, put it's a movement and posture of the Ninja Sword.
Re: Sidious Fighting Style
Originally posted by jpsmith5
Evidently, since you know nothing about the Way of the Japanese Sword. The constant twirling overhead is more of a psychological move to draw your opponent in to expose them to a fatal blow. It's a method of Togakure Ryu which is known as Taijitsu Bikenjutsu. Simply, put it's a movement and posture of the Ninja Sword.
Wow, someone put crack in their Cereal. The twist over the head is a move done to try to slip awareness off your opponent to catch him off guard for a lower body swing and it is not a Japanese method. And the Ninja sword would NEVER EVER have a strike like that. They consist of Fast and accurate follow through strikes. They are very blunt and striked with their swords. The swordplay of Ninjitsu would never consist of an overhead slice. That is just a statement filled over the brim with moot, my friend.
How stupid can you be?
For one, the title of "Grandmaster" is from Chinese Martial Arts. Someone who has mastered Ninjitsu would be a "Jonin" you FOOL!
And there is over hundreds of "Jonin" left in Japan and around the world.
Come back when you learn some real knowledge about anything circulating to sword fighting, then we may talk.
LordSorgo, your the fool. The Ninjitsu lived by the code of Bushido but, they lived more by the way of Suz Tzu. There they trained in the arts of war. Their art is based upon a great Chinese military text written by a general named Sun Tzu, The Art of War. . You first must learn the history of the Ninja before you go posting ignorant threads like you did. And yes the title of Grandmaster is bestowed upon the practictioner with the fullest knowledge of the art. I studied in Japan for 16 years under Ninjitsu Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi in Hokkaido, Japan and I studied under Bushido Master Takamatsu in Akashi in the Hyogo Province. It's from Hatsumi that I learned the history of the Ninja and it's Takamatsu that told me that Hatsumi was the last legitimate Ninjitsu Grandmaster left. So who did you learn from and where did you get your info from.
Amen.
Sorgo, I never thought I'd see you posting something I approved of.
However, I had heard there was one Jonin left in the modern world and happened to see a special on the deal on TV, something on Discovery. But that's besides the point... None of Sidious' moves are Kenjutsu-based entirely and most are quite bizarre.
For one thing, Nick Gillard himself said that Sidious' style was ambiguous and that all the lightsaber duels of the PT (As opposed to teh strictly kendo OT) would be a combination of (And I quote) "all the great styles" from around the world. This includes Spanish fencing, as shown partially by Dooku, Ray Park's own expertise in the form of Chinese staff fighting, and even some Korean swordfighting manuervers, like kicks etc. Japanese IS included, a homage to Lucas' inspirations for the original trilogy. However, Sidious himself does not use his blade at all like a practitioner of Kenjutsu would.
Originally posted by jpsmith5
LordSorgo, your the fool. The Ninjitsu lived by the code of Bushido but, they lived more by the way of Suz Tzu. There they trained in the arts of war. Their art is based upon a great Chinese military text written by a general named Sun Tzu, The Art of War. . You first must learn the history of the Ninja before you go posting ignorant threads like you did. And yes the title of Grandmaster is bestowed upon the practictioner with the fullest knowledge of the art. I studied in Japan for 16 years under Ninjitsu Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi in Hokkaido, Japan and I studied under Bushido Master Takamatsu in Akashi in the Hyogo Province. It's from Hatsumi that I learned the history of the Ninja and it's Takamatsu that told me that Hatsumi was the last legitimate Ninjitsu Grandmaster left. So who did you learn from and where did you get your info from.
Yet you call the Ninjitsu "Jonin" a Grandmaster again! Saying that you studied Ninjitsu for sixteen years is a STAGGERING LIE WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PROPER TITLE FOR YOUR MASTER! By the way, just because Soke Masaaki Hatsumi is a famous Ninjitsu art practicioner does not mean he is the last good "Jonin" around.
Anyone who has the slightest knowledge about martial arts knows that the Jonin of Ninjitsu are not called Grandmasters! The Ninjitsu stick to the ancient traditions of "Ninpo" and have the highest rank of Ninja called "Jonin".
Wow, you studied under all these highly skilled Masters of Martial arts and swordplay, yet you're lingering around a MOVIE FORUM?
WELL, WELL, WELL let us read this...
The Ninjitsu lived by the code of Bushido but, they lived more by the way of Suz Tzu. There they trained in the arts of war. Their art is based upon a great Chinese military text written by a general named Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Wanna hear something really weird? The Ninja lived under the Code of Conduct named "Ninpo". The "Bushido" was the Code of Conduct for the Samurai. You should know this, YOU APPARENTLY STUDIED IT FOR SIXTEEN YEARS!
The Art of War is not even a quarter of the part of the Ninpo. If it was the whole thing, i am guessing the Ninja would be Chinese, because they would be following the purity of a Chinese code, Right? But i am assuming you know this because of your sixteen years of training you supposedly had.
Wanna hear something else that is extremely akward? You said in one of your other posts that the Over the head sword swing was a part of a Ninja swordplay technique. Well then, explain this to me.....
Why in the hell would a Ninja, who has a primary commodation in Assassanation techniques, use an over the head swordplay move to suprise attack an opponent? I am guessing the Ninja wants his Opponent to see his sword? Or wait..... ACTUALLY, NO HE DOES NOT!
For someone who trained under a "Jonin", you sure lack A HELL of alot of knowledge.
LordSorgo, your the fool.
Sorry, but you're the fool.