I now think that the opening of the next Batman should start with five cops near the docks spoting a dead body with the victim having an eternal smile and a Joker card. And when one of the pick it up a explosion takes place and the Joker appears from the shadows and says something like, "Aren`t tragedies extremely funny." And then he goes into the distance laughing.
Originally posted by TwoFace2
I think I would like to see this opening...Bruce Wayne along with the media press on the steps of the council, an announcer introduce District Attorney Harvey Dent. He makes a speech about fighting the crimes 24/7 and crap like that.
Maybe in the next scene, Dent and Rachel Dawes discussed with Gordon over recognized criminal people, trying to find out who is running Falcone's men now. Maybe this question lead to Carl Grissom who has his favorite henchman, Jack Napier. They believe that those guys run their business in a factory in the Narrows.
Mr. Napier debut as Joker in the halfway of the movie. What ya think?
It'll probably just open one of the ways NoFate described. Batman tracking and apprehending some lower level villain (which would rule) or with Batman taking down Scarecrow. Which would also be pretty cool, but I'd prefer he have at least a little bit more detail put into him now that he's actually become the villain Crane was meant to be.
I want just a reasonable opening... no craziness... maybe a small fight but not some lunatic at the start! I hated Batman Forever because they gave a long origin (though crap) to Ed Nigma, who never really needs much of a back- story, but they gave no proper origin to Two Face! A key villain with a major origin must have 1, though obviously not Joker!
Originally posted by Myth
No way is it going to start out with both Batman and Joker.It will either be an intro scene with Batman with no regards to Joker,
or starting with Joker doing something evil (but still as Jack).You can't just jump into Batman chasing down a guy that is Joker.
that's how i would do it
It probably won't go into an origin for Joker. Chris Nolan has stayed pretty true to the comics and I can't see him being one for putting up another tried account. And certainly not using Burton's. Joker isn't meant to have a specific origin and even Scarecrow (with a very open and clear origin) didn't get one.
Idk...I have a feeling that Nolan might go with the Killing Joke storyline a little bit. You could easily include a fast subplot of "Falcone's men have split up due to the Batman. Maroni controls one section, one section is controlled by Rupert Thorne/Penguin, and one section falls under the leadership of a man named the Red Hood." I don't think they'll pass up on the opportunity to have the chemical plant scene - that's too classic. They won't just skip right to Joker being Joker.
I doubt Joker will be in the movie at all. I read somewhere that the end of Batman Begins was just a nod to the first Batman movie, so yeah I dunno. I think it will have an opening like a jornal entry. "I'm Bruce Wayne, a boy millionaire in Gotham city..." and then he'll be like, "But when the darkness comes, I am no longer Bruce Wayne. I am fear. I am the shadows. I am THE BATMAN!" Yeah, that's how it'll begin. Man, I should be writing this script!
Lol. As a writer myself, I gotta commend you. I do like the line "But when the darkness comes, I am no longer Bruce Wayne...I am fear....I am the shadows...I am Batman."
I read the same thing you did, about how the end was supposedly a nod, but I think they brought that up just to reassure people that its not 100% that they'll have Joker in this one. I think they almost have to have Joker in the films at some point, just because of his legacy and everything, but yeah, its not set in stone that he has to be in #2. He could be in #3, 4...whatever.
Actually, its basically certain. Gary Oldman and David Goyer have both said so.
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Are you lined up for the sequel?
Morgan Freeman: I’m not lined up, they don’t line me up.
Gary Oldman: Oh, they’re gonna call you. I think so.
MF: From your mouth to God’s ears. Conventional belief is that they’re gonna call me.
GO: I think Christian signed for three, yeah. I’m signed to do the next film. (Turns to Morgan) They’ll be calling you. And we got the Joker next time.
Any word on who will be playing him?
MF: No.
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So that's pretty good confirmation on both the Joker and a return for Bale, Oldman, and Freeman.
I guess since I'm already here I'll include this...
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Are the actors are signed up?
CHARLES ROVEN (CR): Some are.
DG: Some are, and some aren’t.
CR: I think Michael Caine is committed.
DG: Christian, Michael Caine…
CR: Gary Oldman, I actually think that Katie Holmes is committed too.
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That's David Goyer and Charles Roven talking. I hope we'll be seeing the death of Rachel in this one!