Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Please do you know the difference between gymnastics, and agility, because if you did....
This just proves you didn't understand the arguement.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Cap has more experience doing that, but spiderman is built for it, he has more agility period, it matters not if he wins a competition, all of this has been covered, you can't debate it, and you resort to cluster****ing and other stuff to get past me, please.
Cap has more experience doing that? I don't know where you got that. Spiderman has a Human frame, Nightcrawler has a Mutated frame and is far more "built for it." And since that seems to be your principal arguement, I win.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
"your an idiot"?Lol, which is all it takes to get rid of a nutswinger like you, who makes no points, and trolls on these threads boy.
Your inability to see my points in no way indicates that I've made none.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Guys go to wolverine vs dock ock, and watch them get selectively owned, of course merc did nothing but nutswing as usual.
Yes please do go to that thread, I make a point, Mitch waits for others to make a point and then says "good point." Hey wait, isn't that what you call "nutswinging"?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
For the race, everyone knows that now, so you can save that, racist, thats the first thing they say, "I'm xxxx", please, you have no rep around here my friend, when I came I made sure of your bullshit, you've owned nothing.
Please re-read this, it's complete dribble. And who am I racist against? You don't even know my ethnicity, you poor sad fool.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Batman hits harder than spiderman, I'm already considered better than you bud, smarter, better looking, and can kick your ass.
And as soon as you come down from whatever you're on I'm sure you'll see the error of your judgement.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You never know what the hell you are talking about anyway, I used to own that ass all night long, and he needed to flame and troll.
More incoherent dribble. Please do try harder to master the English language.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Your method involves making shit up, so I have to drag the shit back 20 pages to look like I was debating.
To another fantasy point you think you made but only you understand or to a point that only you can see for some mysterious reason.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I'd advise you go away now boy, you've already been dealt with enough, make your visists as infrequent as possible.
Dealt with? I'll make you a deal, stop posting dribble, and I'll quit owning you.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
This just proves you didn't understand the arguement.Cap has more experience doing that? I don't know where you got that. Spiderman has a Human frame, Nightcrawler has a Mutated frame and is far more "built for it." And since that seems to be your principal arguement, I win.
Your inability to see my points in no way indicates that I've made none.
Yes please do go to that thread, I make a point, Mitch waits for others to make a point and then says "good point." Hey wait, isn't that what you call "nutswinging"?
Please re-read this, it's complete dribble. And who am I racist against? You don't even know my ethnicity, you poor sad fool.
And as soon as you come down from whatever you're on I'm sure you'll see the error of your judgement.
More incoherent dribble. Please do try harder to master the English language.
To another fantasy point you think you made but only you understand or to a point that only you can see for some mysterious reason.
Dealt with? I'll make you a deal, stop posting dribble, and I'll quit owning you.
Since paola asked me to show mercy to your ignorant soul, I'll leave you be... 😉
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Now I was curious of this, just cause flash is the fastest, does that mean he has the most movement dexterity?
Yes it does. Flash's leg and arm muscles aren't the only things moving at 'beyond' superhuman speeds...His brain does as well, giving him a sort of a 'Spider-Sense' where he can also percieve (I think I spelled that right) the world quickly but thorougly. If you threw a rock at Flash, do you think he would let it hit him and then run away? No, he would move even before the rock left your fingertips. People think running at great speed is Flash's only power. It's not. He can calculate things faster than the world's greatest computer, because his brainwaves function at amazing speeds. If his brain can do that, does that not mean that this can also be linked to movement? Like the action of jumping out of a speeding truck's way before it hits you??
Originally posted by TheFlash
Yes it does. Flash's leg and arm muscles aren't the only things moving at 'beyond' superhuman speeds...His brain does as well, giving him a sort of a 'Spider-Sense' where he can also percieve (I think I spelled that right) the world quickly but thorougly. If you threw a rock at Flash, do you think he would let it hit him and then run away? No, he would move even before the rock left your fingertips. People think running at great speed is Flash's only power. It's not. He can calculate things faster than the world's greatest computer, because his brainwaves function at amazing speeds. If his brain can do that, does that not mean that this can also be linked to movement? Like the action of jumping out of a speeding truck's way before it hits you??
I'm not talking about that, I'm saying does he have movement flexibility and adroitness.
Kurt has the better body for acrobating, but spiderman has the speed, and agility. Kurt is very close, but in the sake of bars and swings, Kurt would be more flashy as he can grip with his feet, and tail.
Spiderman would do better in events that require a long jump or great feat of strength to get to one place or another, but he's close with Kurt, but has versatility that leads me to believe he's #1
I know it involves dexterity, it just depends on what feats you are talking about, its like gymnastics. Spiderman has the greater strength and could do these spins and flips many times no doubt, as well as Kurt.
For instance I think Spidermans greatest point is his start, he would get a good launch, hang (strength), have a faster movement, and get more times to spin and twist and flip. His landing would be better than others but not Kurt, though I'm sure he would be the only to land on one hand from a really high fall.
Kurt would be strong in his finishes. His start, wouldn't be as strong as spidermans, but he would make up for it, with his natural grace, and adaptivity to cling to surfaces with his tails and hands, ideal for bars and such. He does not have the strength to do what spidey could do for as long, but he adept and BORN to do it.
Spiderman acrobatics were a gift, Kurts were his birthright, but I think strength would give him the opportunity to catch the air in his ascent of his jumps.
I agree with parts of it and I understand those terms fine , Agility=dexterity in movement basically, or adroitness in movement regardless spiderman just has the body necessary to take this, his abilites make up for his experience, in some aspects he is no rookie.
Spiderman does things better than some of the most experienced at times, its close between him and Kurt.
Beast and nightcrawler are actually very similar in that aspect.
If there's teleport there's webbing too.
Basically its down to the same, spidey's "lack of experience" but better abilites, versus the more experienced. Though he doesn't have any formal training, spiderman is no fool in agility and obstacles nor moving gracefully. Regardless the first thing u think of with spiderman is dodging and gracefullness.
Agility is nice, but feats like this require, exceptional strength as well. The bicep,tricep, latissimus dorsi(back, upper and outer), and middle and upper trapezius(neck and imbetween shoulders), are used here, spiderman could easily do it, and if you removed that goofy costume, he could probably do an episode with peter beating Kurt at his own game, after all , Kurt was impressed byPeter's agility before.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
So you're saying Spiderman is more AGILE because he is stronger and faster? I guess that makes Hulk more agile than all these guys.
No not really, I knew you weren't going to rebut it, but try a mild "creshosk" on me.
Spiderman's body has been augmented for all of this, I know you hate him, but still.
Originally posted by MERCILOUSThere's a certain truth to this. He jumps higher because he's stronger, Higher jumping would allow him to do more acrobatic tricks before hitting the ground. they also give the strength to force your body into different positions when normally unable.
So you're saying Spiderman is more AGILE because he is stronger and faster? I guess that makes Hulk more agile than all these guys.
the speed alows him to do this quickly, which would also aid in getting into more positions.
However Hulk lacks the knowledge, and flexability of either of the two weaker heros.
Originally posted by Creshosk
There's a certain truth to this. He jumps higher because he's stronger, Higher jumping would allow him to do more acrobatic tricks before hitting the ground. they also give the strength to force your body into different positions when normally unable.the speed alows him to do this quickly, which would also aid in getting into more positions.
However Hulk lacks the knowledge, and flexability of either of the two weaker heros.
That's not agility, assume that both heros jump their highest. Spidey does 40 tricks, and Nightcrawler does 5 because spidey is stronger and faster. It would seem that what you say is true, except that on review you notice that Night crawler did 5 tricks that Spidey isn't capable of.
I mean you said it your self, Hulk lacks the knowledge and flexibilty, but he could jump so high and move so quickly he could pull off a thousand tricks before he hit the ground.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
That's not agility, assume that both heros jump their highest. Spidey does 40 tricks, and Nightcrawler does 5 because spidey is stronger and faster. It would seem that what you say is true, except that on review you notice that Night crawler did 5 tricks that Spidey isn't capable of.I mean you said it your self, Hulk lacks the knowledge and flexibilty, but he could jump so high and move so quickly he could pull off a thousand tricks before he hit the ground.
No, strength does contribute to agility actually, you need to learn what you are talking about before you get technical, thats MY field, being a lackey is yours.
Having strength, lightweight, and superflexiblity in a body contributes to agility.
Agility: dexterity and adriotness in movement.
A stronger body of light weight moves easier doesn't it?
I forgot I was asking a fanboy, and a spiderman troll, whoops.