Well, I feel there's no problem with this Groupthink thing except for my first post in this thread which got zero responses. To sum up, stop making stupid obvious threads where society as a whole would disapprove if you thought against the norm.
Those are strictly follow-the-leader threads and I'll say it on every one of them that's created if I have to. Have a nice day!
Originally posted by Kuntz
No I am not saying that you should side with the conspiracists etc., but do you feel these groups groupthink is not trolling but rather an expected kind of learnt behaviour 🙂
like i said before, it all depends on the situation. if someone makes a post praising hitler for example, and everyone says "you're an a$$hole", is that group think? or is that simply everyone sharing and expressing the same opinion?
I wonder if these young terrorists who have thier whole life before them suffer this, I can´t fathom why anyone would blow themselves up, especially in a country like the UK where there are so many chances of success.
In Palastine its another case, if your cat in the corner and getting grief all the time then its obvious that a fuse will blow eventually.
Originally posted by botankus
Well, I feel there's no problem with this Groupthink thing except for my first post in this thread which got zero responses. To sum up, stop making stupid obvious threads where society as a whole would disapprove if you thought against the norm.Those are strictly follow-the-leader threads and I'll say it on every one of them that's created if I have to. Have a nice day!
Justification? 🙂
Have a nice day🙂
-Kuntz 🍺
Groupthink
'An illusion of invulnerability, which creates excessive optimism and encourages taking extreme risks'Does your organisation, cult or group suffer from groupthink? Stephen Castro in this book argues that the Findhorn community in Scotland is a classic example of this dangerous phenomenon. The behavioural symptoms to watch out for are as follows:
(1) An illusion of invulnerability, shared by most or all the members, which creates excessive optimism and encourages taking extreme risks.
(2) Collective efforts to rationalise in order to discount warnings which might lead the members to reconsider their assumptions before they recommit themselves to their past policy decisions.
(3) An unquestioned belief in the group's inherent morality, inclining the members to ignore the ethical or moral consequences of their decisions.
(4) Stereotyped views of rivals and enemies as too evil to warrant genuine attempts to negotiate, or as too weak and stupid to counter whatever risky attempts are made to defeat their purposes.
(5) Direct pressure on any member who expresses strong arguments against any of the group's stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, making clear that this type of dissent is contrary to what is expected of all loyal members.
(6) Self-censorship of deviations from the apparent group consensus, reflecting each member's inclination to minimise to himself the importance of his doubts and counter-arguments.
(7) A shared illusion of unanimity concerning judgements conforming to the majority view (partly resulting from self-censorship of deviations, augmented by the false assumption that silence means consent).
(8) The emergence of self-appointed mindguards - members who protect the group from adverse information that might shatter their shared complacency about the effectiveness and morality of their decisions.
Quoted by Castro from J. R. Eiser, Social Psychology (Cambridge University Press, 1986, pp 38-39).
I've seen people who fall under the guidelines listed above on both the "left" and "right" side. I believe that we all subscribe to a certain degree of "groupthink." Seeing as how we generally associate ourselves with people who have opinions/ideals similar to our own. The biggest problem I have, however, is with individuals who are not able to diverge from the group consensus from time to time, particularly when the "groups" opinion might be on the wrong side of the fence. So what are everyone's opinions on this?
Re: Groupthink
Originally posted by whobdamandogI've seen people who fall under the guidelines listed above on both the "left" and "right" side. I believe that we all subscribe to a certain degree of "groupthink." Seeing as how we generally associate ourselves with people who have opinions/ideals similar to our own. The biggest problem I have, however, is with individuals who are not able to diverge from the group consensus from time to time, particularly when the "groups" opinion might be on the wrong side of the fence. So what are everyone's opinions on this?
Yes - I have observed this as well 🙂
I think you should learn to use the search function 🙂
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=358868&highlight=groupthink
Originally posted by Lana
I think you should learn to use the search function 🙂http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=358868&highlight=groupthink
I know how to do that and got warned for bumping threads with it today - hey 😱 thats my old thread 🙂
Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
I know how to do that and got warned for bumping threads with it today - hey 😱 thats my old thread 🙂
There's a difference between bumping threads simply for the sake of bumping it - what you were doing - and bumping a thread because you have something relevant to add to that discussion.
Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
I know how to do that and got warned for bumping threads with it today - hey 😱 thats my old thread 🙂
Bumping old threads isn't a problem if you actually add something constructive to the conversation or offer a new perspective, doing it just for the sake of bumping is generally frowned upon because many people do it just to be annoying.
If you want to bump a thread, add something to it, then there won't be a problem.
Originally posted by BackFire
Agreeing isn't really enough, to be honest. You should add something beyond that, or else it falls under just bumping for bumping.I'm sure you didn't do it purposely and I'm not trying to insinuate that you didn't have good intentions, I'm just telling you for future reference.
Thanks and no problem
Re: Groupthink
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
1) Do we have groupthink at KMC?2) Do the Mods have groupthink?
3) Do you worry how people on KMC think about you?
1 My initial impression is No. I think most people view the forum as a place to indeed express their individualities--heck, if we did have groupthink would we have so many "heated" debates? 😛
2 Again, doesn't seem that way to me. However, the very purpose of the Mods is to make sure certain rules of "civilized engagement" are abided by.
3 No...though sometimes someone will say something I feel is presumptuous or provoking and requires "rectification." But generally, what erroneous imbecilic impression someone may have of me is not even worth the effort to respond.
Originally posted by KidX
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Hey you bothered to bump this thred...... cool 🙂
Originally posted by BackFire
Bumping old threads isn't a problem if you actually add something constructive to the conversation or offer a new perspective, doing it just for the sake of bumping is generally frowned upon because many people do it just to be annoying.If you want to bump a thread, add something to it, then there won't be a problem.
I see......
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