Originally posted by The Highlord
What? its like saying that you dont think the people that go see soccer matches just to beat the other teams fans up are not idiots, you think its funny that some assholes beat up nice long dedicted fans of some bands only cause they think its fun? huh? no its realy discusting and makes my wanna trow up, its only some very sick people that have a huge problem with them selfs.
Yeah, it makes me want to "trow up" too.
Originally posted by The Highlord
What? its like saying that you dont think the people that go see soccer matches just to beat the other teams fans up are not idiots, you think its funny that some assholes beat up nice long dedicted fans of some bands only cause they think its fun? huh? no its realy discusting and makes my wanna trow up, its only some very sick people that have a huge problem with them selfs.
Well, after you trow up, realize this: anyone who goes in the pit at a concert understands that there will be some degree of violence. So your little soccer analogy doesnt work, becuase in this situation it is mutual violence, not one person beating up someone helpless.
Soon I'll be seeing:
Green Day
Weezer
Foo Fighters
System of a Down
Mars Volta
Most excited for SOAD though.
I have seen too many to list out all but some of the more memorable ones (by that I mean, I remember seeing them, not necessarily that they were good):
Godsmack
Rob Zombie
Green Day
SOAD
Dope
Slipknot
Slayer
Korn
Disturbed
Papa Roach
Static-X
Saliva
Down
Puddle of Mudd
Stereomudd
Deftones
Scum of the Earth
Syx
Tommy Lee
Soil
Craving Theo
Twisted Method
Motograter
Brand New Sin
Thats all I can remember right now. I know I'm missing 2 bands from this summer alone.
Ah comon man, I know that if you really think about it, you know that beating people up is only for stupit people, its just something you just dont do, no matter what people say about you, you just dont think 'I really gotta knock him out' if you think that way then something is amiss, its just wrong, and your father knows someone that just gose to a concert to get into fights? what kind of attitude is that? give him my greeting will ya? tell him to hit himself in the head before he gose to sleep as hard as he can at least 10 times, and then ask him to think about how fun it is, at least its a start for the lamer with no brain, ffs dose he think a concert is a battlefield or something? It really sad if you have to expect violance everytime you go to a concert, I was at a local concert 2 weeks ago and there where 6000 people, and everyone i talked to had a GREAT time, infact I didint even hear or see one fight with fists or words, why someone would go to jjust get into fights when everybody else gose to have a good time is pretty sick if you ask me or all the rest of comon people for that matter
First of all...
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Im not a fan of the whole moshing thing, but I can see why poeple do it and I think to them moshing is as imporatnt as the music itself.
Wrong. Totally.
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
May sound wierd to you, but my dad knows a guy who goes to concerts just to beat the shit out of poeple, and I know someone who goes to concerts for the same reasons, even going to concerts of bands he dislikes just for the sake of moshing.
They're f*cking waster idiots then. Simple as. That's like someone going out in the street just to beat someone up.
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Like I said, Im not the type to do stuff like that, but I dont think people who do are idiots.
Then you're an idiot. Anyone who goes to a Rock show to beat people up, is a moron. Simple. No debate.
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Well, after you trow up, realize this: anyone who goes in the pit at a concert understands that there will be some degree of violence. So your little soccer analogy doesnt work, becuase in this situation it is mutual violence, not one person beating up someone helpless.
Well yes it is like that. It's not mutual violence you cretin. It's someone going to be an idiot, meeting (possibly) other idiots then proceeding to act like morons. Other people who go there to enjoy the music and the show (which is what it's about) often get hurt or even killed as a result.
You and anyone like you who thinks it's right or justified, need to go play on a motorway. You make me sick.
There's an difference between being barged around by loads of people getting into the music and going to a concert to harm people.
Morons.
-AC
I think the whole point of a mosh pit is to mosh, yet you seem to not realize this. If you (like me) do not like to mosh, then stay in a seat and stop complaining about people who do.
Y'know AC, your arguments would hold more credibility if you would stop throwing around insults so much. Just kinda lowers yourself
Dilemma: You don't want to be called a moron or an idiot?
Solution: Don't portray yourself as one.
My arguements are credible either way. You have an idiotic mentality toward music and concert going.
Why? Because you try to justify fighting and going to concerts to beat people up. I'm the incredibly steep slope to your Steven Hawking minus wheelchair.
-AC
i can dig going to pits to mosh. when i was able to it was great fun. you dont have to punch and hurt people to have fun, i was only ever once in a incident of violence in a pit, and thats only because the guy trying to hurt me was after me before the concert. long story short, he ran at me, i tripped him, he got stood on for a hour, he dosn't mess with me no more. i dont go there to fight with idiots, i want to have a good time
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Dilemma: You don't want to be called a moron or an idiot?Solution: Don't portray yourself as one.
My arguements are credible either way. You have an idiotic mentality toward music and concert going.
Why? Because you try to justify fighting and going to concerts to beat people up. I'm the incredibly steep slope to your Steven Hawking minus wheelchair.
-AC
Look man, I dont know what your deal is. Dont get pissed just becuase I disagree with you. After all, I told you I am not a fan of moshing. I said I'm not into that, but merely tried to point out why others might be, and you busted out all this Steven Hawking shit. Very mature.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The Steven Hawking thing was a joke.You were trying to say you see why others do it and that it's as important as the music itself.
You were wrong. You cannot justify in any way, shape, form or structure, going to a rock show to fight.
-AC
First of all, bad joke.
Second, sure, moshing obviously isnt important to you or me, but I think for many rockers it is a primary reason to go to concerts. I may not be able to justify it, but I can accept it. If you dont like moshing, stay out of the pit. Problem solved
No, you're wrong.
I shouldn't have to jeopardise my concert going experience because people go there for the WRONG reasons.
If you're going to a concert to act like a f*cktard, I'm going to listen to the music. Who's got more right there? Me.
If you don't want to get dragged in, you shouldn't have to worry about it. Because people shouldn't go there to hurt others and start fights.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you're wrong.I shouldn't have to jeopardise my concert going experience because people go there for the WRONG reasons.
If you're going to a concert to act like a f*cktard, I'm going to listen to the music. Who's got more right there? Me.
If you don't want to get dragged in, you shouldn't have to worry about it. Because people shouldn't go there to hurt others and start fights.
-AC
Very well then. If you feel so strongly, take it up with the moshers, not with me
On The Subject Of Moshing:
In the course of my life, I have occasionally sampled the flavour of the otherside. Whislt at university, I would - on occassion - accompany my metal-headed friends to a deep, dark, basement club to sample a live band or two. In my experience, the head-bangers and moshers at these clubs were friendly, fun-loving dudes and dudettes who enjoy a physical and mental experience of the music that delights their ears. I have seen far more posturing and malevolent aggression at the concerts/gigs of bands who do not incite moshing.
Adieu.