Originally posted by jinzin
you've misinterpreted the scan...look at it again.....abom isn't KOed by a kick to the head..what puts him down is wolverine stabbing and slashing the crap out of him...eventually abominations gonna go down which is what I've been saying....wolverine can puncture abomination..he's no more durable than hulk and wolverine's been able to snikt him just fine...read wolverine/hulk 4 issue mini to see what I'm talking about.
I looked at it again, and it looks like Wolvie got a double slash, a kick to the head, and then a slash to the face. That shouldnt KO Abomination, who is equal in strength to a medium mad Hulk. I didnt see no stabbing either. The last hit almost looked like a punch, but the impact shows that it wasnt a stab by any means.
He meant that in the panels of Wolvie vs Abomination, a superficial slash, a kick, and a punch shouldnt be enough to KO Abom. He is suppose to be on par with Hulk in a low to medium rage setting. Hulk shouldnt job to a slash, a kick and a punch, which is all that happened in that page. And there was no stabbing going on. If Wolverine did in fact stab Abom in that last panel, then we would see his fist sunk into the jaw, and the claws embedded in the flesh. Instead, we see Abom face and lips twisted to the right, and Wolverine's fist and claws off panel. It looked like Abom just got punched. With the claws out, it would result in like a scratch, with no real damage being done. Again, I can go to the cat example, where a cat can slice me up and make me hurt, but said Cat cant even get close to killing me with its strength. If you need another example, said I took a kitchen knife and went to cut up my friends car. I can easily scratch the car with a sharp knife, but it takes alot more effort to impale the engine block with it.
Abom shouldnt go down to a scratch, kick, and another slash. There isnt even any green gamma blood or anything.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
He meant that in the panels of Wolvie vs Abomination, a superficial slash, a kick, and a punch shouldnt be enough to KO Abom. He is suppose to be on par with Hulk in a low to medium rage setting. Hulk shouldnt job to a slash, a kick and a punch, which is all that happened in that page. And there was no stabbing going on. If Wolverine did in fact stab Abom in that last panel, then we would see his fist sunk into the jaw, and the claws embedded in the flesh. Instead, we see Abom face and lips twisted to the right, and Wolverine's fist and claws off panel. It looked like Abom just got punched. With the claws out, it would result in like a scratch, with no real damage being done. Again, I can go to the cat example, where a cat can slice me up and make me hurt, but said Cat cant even get close to killing me with its strength. If you need another example, said I took a kitchen knife and went to cut up my friends car. I can easily scratch the car with a sharp knife, but it takes alot more effort to impale the engine block with it.Abom shouldnt go down to a scratch, kick, and another slash. There isnt even any green gamma blood or anything.
RAHH!
And wolverine put his claws away for the shot to the jaw that we can't even see what if anyt damage was done from that punch?
And where and what did he hit in the RAHH! shot?
Originally posted by Creshosk
RAHH!And wolverine put his claws away for the shot to the jaw that we can't even see what if anyt damage was done from that punch?
And where and what did he hit in the RAHH! shot?
exactly, you can't just keep claiming that wolverine just slashed him when there's no evidence to support it...
abomination's KOed there's a high likelyhood that wolverine punched him in the through or side of the head....we only see about a third of abominations head...and this was a comic made in the early 90's, protected by the comic's code authority, of course they weren't gonna show his head punctured......
again...wolverine can cut and stab hulk but not abomination? why not?
also the cat analogy is bad.....make those claws considerably longer....like a badger or wolverine...(lol) and those claws do considerably more damage.....it's just a bad analogy....
Ok, its unknown what exactly happened in the RAAA shot. We can easily assume however, that Wolverine didnt puncture his head. That would have killed him. He is incapacitated, which is why Logan makes his whole "I wont finish him off" statement. If Logan punctured his head, then Logan would instead comment on how he is a roobie, and say bub a couple times. And for the sake of looking at this particular fight, in this instance Abomination has no healing factor.
Assuming he DID have a factor, then Logan would have did a puncture attack, knowing that Abom would heal it. However, he wouldnt need to comment on a finishing blow to the jugular, since that wouldnt be fatal either. Also, if he had a healing factor, a KO should be easily remedied. Im unsure wether Abom has Hulks healing or something comparable to Logan's, but in this particular fight, he does not have either.
But, he is in fact KOed, or incapacitated. Wolverine seemed to be in a merciful mood, so when he RAAA'd he probably didnt stab anything vital, but stabbing something Invital wouldnt result in a KO. The only way to KO someone is to beat them up. Abomination slugs it out with Hulk, Wolverine shouldnt be able to KO him at all. Not even close. Abomination comments that he hits with fiercenss greater than the Hulk. Are we suppose to beleive wolverine can hit harder than the Hulk now?
Its interesting that you point out this comic is from the 90s, when Wolverines popularity was begining to peak.
My kitty analogy holds true, since Im comparing strengths here. A badger can mess me up Im sure, however I still doubt he can stab me in the head. Anyway, since Abomination is suppose to be comparable to the Hulk, hes alot stronger than a normal man. Wolverine shouldnt have the strength to phase Abomination so easily. Thats the point Im trying to make here. Im not going to say that Wolverine beating Abomination is PIS since if they took a few minutes Im sure they could write a good fight were Wolverine finds a way, but this fight has alot of stuff wrong with it. It shouldnt be such an easy fight for Wolverine, he lacks the strength to do alot of real damage in one hit. He definatly shouldnt faze him with a kick to the head. And the fact that Abomination comments that Wolverine hits are comparable to the Hulks is just ludicrous. They arnt exactly being faithful to either character, making Abom a push over and Wolverine a god, they just seem to want Wolverine to easily walk over another villian in a cool way to get their readers to pop their wolverine hard ons again.
When I say that Im not calling anyone HERE a fanboy, Im stating that Marvel itself has been known to cater to fans to get buyers, and this seems to be an instance of that.
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Ok, its unknown what exactly happened in the RAAA shot. We can easily assume however, that Wolverine didnt puncture his head. That would have killed him. He is incapacitated, which is why Logan makes his whole "I wont finish him off" statement. If Logan punctured his head, then Logan would instead comment on how he is a roobie, and say bub a couple times. And for the sake of looking at this particular fight, in this instance Abomination has no healing factor.Assuming he DID have a factor, then Logan would have did a puncture attack, knowing that Abom would heal it. However, he wouldnt need to comment on a finishing blow to the jugular, since that wouldnt be fatal either. Also, if he had a healing factor, a KO should be easily remedied. Im unsure wether Abom has Hulks healing or something comparable to Logan's, but in this particular fight, he does not have either.
But, he is in fact KOed, or incapacitated. Wolverine seemed to be in a merciful mood, so when he RAAA'd he probably didnt stab anything vital, but stabbing something Invital wouldnt result in a KO. The only way to KO someone is to beat them up. Abomination slugs it out with Hulk, Wolverine shouldnt be able to KO him at all. Not even close. Abomination comments that he hits with fiercenss greater than the Hulk. Are we suppose to beleive wolverine can hit harder than the Hulk now?
Its interesting that you point out this comic is from the 90s, when Wolverines popularity was begining to peak.
My kitty analogy holds true, since Im comparing strengths here. A badger can mess me up Im sure, however I still doubt he can stab me in the head. Anyway, since Abomination is suppose to be comparable to the Hulk, hes alot stronger than a normal man. Wolverine shouldnt have the strength to phase Abomination so easily. Thats the point Im trying to make here. Im not going to say that Wolverine beating Abomination is PIS since if they took a few minutes Im sure they could write a good fight were Wolverine finds a way, but this fight has alot of stuff wrong with it. It shouldnt be such an easy fight for Wolverine, he lacks the strength to do alot of real damage in one hit. He definatly shouldnt faze him with a kick to the head. And the fact that Abomination comments that Wolverine hits are comparable to the Hulks is just ludicrous. They arnt exactly being faithful to either character, making Abom a push over and Wolverine a god, they just seem to want Wolverine to easily walk over another villian in a cool way to get their readers to pop their wolverine hard ons again.
When I say that Im not calling anyone HERE a fanboy, Im stating that Marvel itself has been known to cater to fans to get buyers, and this seems to be an instance of that.
well that would make since if that was the selling point of the book, but it wasn't.....the major selling point for the book was magneto with venom at his side fighting the rest of the xmen and spiderman, the stranger in the background....
this fight was just a little surprise that lasted one page long...so I don't know if they were really doing that for sales....
actually a kick to the head I could absolutely see "rattling" a bigger stronger character like that....wolverine punched out roughhouse who's got a strength level that's just a little below hulk level according to wolverine, and wolverine KOed him with admantium fists...considering his martial arts training with low end superhuman strength levels and an admantium skeleton I don't see a kick being entirely inaffective...
aside from that we don't see abomination hurt from the kick or even making a grunt to imply that he was....you're just going off wolverine's word for that one...which isn't exactly canon imo....
lastly striking with more fury doesn't equate to hitting harder.....it's a different term alltogether....the cat attacked me with more fury than the biker....doesn't mean it hit harder does it?
any way here's what a wolverine kick to the head can do...