The Official BLEACH series Thread

Started by AuraAngel524 pages

Strictly speaking, can it be a retcon when so little was revealed about the character before? I can't think of anything this chapter contradicts.

And filler is filler. And strictly speaking, Soi-fon is a youngin while Yamamoto was probably talking about his generation.

exactly, just because it never said anything about Sasikabe before doesn't mean Kubo is doing any retcon now.

on another note, I have to say that his bankai wasn't too bad. has a lot of fighting potential, though it just ended up getting stolen and all.

Not a bad chapter, seems to me that the Quincies can't fully control the power of the stolen bankai, otherwise Yama would have been in a little trouble.

And I'm glad he one-shot the guy.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Strictly speaking, can it be a retcon when so little was revealed about the character before? I can't think of anything this chapter contradicts.

And filler is filler. And strictly speaking, Soi-fon is a youngin while Yamamoto was probably talking about his generation.

Ichigo curbed him easily while only barehanded. Someone who could permanently scar Yamamoto shouldn't have had any trouble dismissing Ichigo.

I was referring to how the series in general acknowledged how little attention Sasakibe recieved. Pity since the dude has an awesome namesake.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Ichigo curbed him easily while only barehanded. Someone who could permanently scar Yamamoto shouldn't have had any trouble dismissing Ichigo.

I was referring to how the series in general acknowledged how little attention Sasakibe recieved. Pity since the dude has an awesome namesake.

The reason Ichigo could curb him is the same reason he could scratch Yamamoto: the young one who had apparently mastered Bankai so quickly it's silly managed to surprise the older guy. Alternatively, Sasakibe is a glass cannon.

Suprise? Sasakibe was both blitzed and pwned bare handed. At least Yamamoto won against the youngster.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Suprise? Sasakibe was both blitzed and pwned bare handed. At least Yamamoto won against the youngster.

The gap between Yamamoto and Sasakibe is bigger than the gap between Sasakibe and Ichigo(at the time). Keep in mind, they had no reason to believe he was capable of such speed and since Yamamoto is the Hand to Hand guy, Sasakibe wouldn't really be prepared to deal with that. He doesn't try to imitate Yamamoto. So yeah, I can see a regular old uppercut being enough.

Still horribly lame. Besides prior to this war there was nothing separating him from the rest of the average lieutenant.But surely he could take more damage than that if he was able to spar with Yamamoto. This also makes me wonder why neither Unohana nor Mayuri even tried to keep such an asset to SS alive yet Hinamori gets the all-star treatment.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Still horribly lame. Besides prior to this war there was nothing separating him from the rest of the average lieutenant.But surely he could take more damage than that if he was able to spar with Yamamoto. This also makes me wonder why neither Unohana nor Mayuri even tried to keep such an asset to SS alive yet Hinamori gets the all-star treatment.

He really wasn't able to spar with him. No one alive could really fight evenly with Yamamoto alone. Cept Aizen and probably the Emperor guy.

Hinamori is a Vizard. I can believe her somehow holding on until someone showed up to help. Happened with Ichigo surviving the impossible. And strictly speaking, there is no proof that nobody didn't try to save Sasakibe. And Quincy weapons are, I'm assuming, more damaging to a Shinigami than a Zanpakuto.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
He really wasn't able to spar with him. No one alive could really fight evenly with Yamamoto alone. Cept Aizen and probably the Emperor guy.

Hinamori is a Vizard. I can believe her somehow holding on until someone showed up to help. Happened with Ichigo surviving the impossible. And strictly speaking, there is no proof that nobody didn't try to save Sasakibe. And Quincy weapons are, I'm assuming, more damaging to a Shinigami than a Zanpakuto.

Well he was able to damage Yamamoto before getting beating down by him. Seemed like a sparring match to me...or training since sparring is too strong of a word for this type of situation.

You're confusing Hinamori, the one who made Toshiro paingasm with Hiyori...which even then Hiyori being bisected is just as crappy as Ichigo having a hole in his chest. They were able to seen indirect messages to Ichigo and have Orihime on speed dial. Plus there was apparently enough of Sasakibe's body to burn so Orihime could've did something: especially since she was allowed to heal the enemy.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well he was able to damage Yamamoto before getting beating down by him. Seemed like a sparring match to me...or training since sparring is too strong of a word for this type of situation.

You're confusing Hinamori, the one who made Toshiro paingasm with Hiyori...which even then Hiyori being bisected is just as crappy as Ichigo having a hole in his chest. They were able to seen indirect messages to Ichigo and have Orihime on speed dial. Plus there was apparently enough of Sasakibe's body to burn so Orihime could've did something: especially since she was allowed to heal the enemy.

And Ichigo was able to wound Sasakibe, who was probably stronger than Ichigo at the time(hax Bankai and all). And yeah, Yamamoto got the scar but really do you think he was serious at all? I don't. No one can really spar evenly with Yamamoto.

Dunno how that happened. Eh, I think it just shows Vizards have more durability than the average person I guess. And Orihime isn't allowed to heal Division 1. Been over this.

THIS CHAPTER WAS ****IN' SWEEEEET!

Holy shit of all shits:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v53/c504/18.html

This is the type of Bleach writing that I love.

He pisses all over Yamamoto's loved ones and gets the horns. "Became ashes." Such a badass line.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
The gap between Yamamoto and Sasakibe is bigger than the gap between Sasakibe and Ichigo(at the time). Keep in mind, they had no reason to believe he was capable of such speed and since Yamamoto is the Hand to Hand guy, Sasakibe wouldn't really be prepared to deal with that. He doesn't try to imitate Yamamoto. So yeah, I can see a regular old uppercut being enough.

Ah, yes. Thanks for that explanation. I was a bit disturbed until I read your explanation and it actually seems quite logical.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And Ichigo was able to wound Sasakibe, who was probably stronger than Ichigo at the time(hax Bankai and all). And yeah, Yamamoto got the scar but really do you think he was serious at all? I don't. No one can really spar evenly with Yamamoto.

Dunno how that happened. Eh, I think it just shows Vizards have more durability than the average person I guess. And Orihime isn't allowed to heal Division 1. Been over this.

But usually stronger bankai means stronger person in general. Heck I'd even wager with all the hype Sasakibe's receiving that he should've been even more powerful than Byakuya at the time of SS. No which is why I changed sparring to training for that example.

But what about the organ machine and being able to heal bisected people. Surely SS could've figured something out besides her.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
But usually stronger bankai means stronger person in general. Heck I'd even wager with all the hype Sasakibe's receiving that he should've been even more powerful than Byakuya at the time of SS. No which is why I changed sparring to training for that example.

But what about the organ machine and being able to heal bisected people. Surely SS could've figured something out besides her.

Kenpachi doesn't have a Bankai. He is Captain Class anyway. Having Bankai doesn't mean you can take a punch better than anyone else.

He died before they could do anything. Alternatively, Quincy weapons are far more deadly to Shinigami.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Kenpachi doesn't have a Bankai. He is Captain Class anyway. Having Bankai doesn't mean you can take a punch better than anyone else.

He died before they could do anything. Alternatively, Quincy weapons are far more deadly to Shinigami.

I meant for the people that do. For Byakuya's stronger than Renji and both his skills and bankai show it. I'm saying that usually people wih strong bankai have skills to match it.

I call bullcrap considering all the other shit Shinigami survive but whatever. I'll agree on the quincy weapon thing though.

I should probably set up a heat equation accounting for the wind scattering of the charred crust in one direction, emphasizing on a horizontal cross-section and solve the PDE in MATLAB.

The slight vacuum you get from the vector-stream isn't a problem, however the non-homogenous cross section is. Then there are very funky parameters like the drag-coefficient, time, and wind-speed. Besides, I'd like to see how he looks in the next chapter before I make any time investments in this project.

Maybe I'll give it a shot in the future when I have more time and we'll see how far I'll get.

On the matter of Sasakibe, the likely answer could very well be that he was incredibly out of practice, especially when you consider the fact that as Yamamoto's right hand man, he wouldn't have seen a lot of action that he had to deal with.

Originally posted by Astner
I should probably set up a heat equation accounting for the wind scattering of the charred crust in one direction, emphasizing on a horizontal cross-section and solve the PDE in MATLAB.

The slight vacuum you get from the vector-stream isn't a problem, however the non-homogenous cross section is. Then there are very funky parameters like the drag-coefficient, time, and wind-speed. Besides, I'd like to see how he looks in the next chapter before I make any time investments in this project.

Maybe I'll give it a shot in the future when I have more time and we'll see how far I'll get.

I would be interested in the results.

For humans and for significant portions of human body parts, I use .45-.60 for a drag coefficient. I figured you were talking about the section of the dude's body that was sliced off.

Unless you are talking about something else like the slash of the blade or the blast of fire from Yamamoto's sword?

Originally posted by Samurai100
On the matter of Sasakibe, the likely answer could very well be that he was incredibly out of practice, especially when you consider the fact that as Yamamoto's right hand man, he wouldn't have seen a lot of action that he had to deal with.

I like Aura's answer best. Basically, he could be a glass cannon. Really high attacking power with his Bankai (that's truth) but weak on physical stuff like strength and H2H.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/B/Bleach/chapter/503/8

The second one had someone(thing) against me and was taking forever to explain his abilities. My ears were still ringing from before so I couldn't hear. He was annoying, so I slit his throat.

That's what I like about Kenpachi. He can't stand cliches.