Debate 5: Will Hogwarts reopen next year?

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alesha1 Junior Member

Originally posted by tracygarrett
I can see it both ways...but in all actuality, Hogwarts doesn't NEED to re-open. Harry has already learned everything he needs. I think the 7th book will focus mainly on the Order. Hogwarts isn't a safe place for the students/faculty, the Death Eaters got in, didn't they? We know that 17 Grimmauld Place is Harry's, so the Order could go there. No, this year is going to have to be spent searching for, and destroying the remaining Horcruxes...
well, they will have to re-open Hogwarts, i mean harry has his whole life there and he would be able to go back for help, and DD picture is there so he could talk to him. but, like tracygarrett said Hogwarts isn't really safe anymore now that DD is gone. Harry's parents house is prob. gone now so what is the point of going back to the place where he lived there will be a new house in it's place. i can see what he means about going to the graveyard though. i really don't think it is about any master plan either. 😉 DD like in the book was pleading to snape and snape could have grabbed Draco and ran. he didn't have to kill DD right then and there.

HorseRiderxoxo Magical

I think Hogwarts will open next year. But Harrys not going back to Hogwarts.

div Senior Member

emm actually its no 12 Grimmauld place not 17...hehee sorry had to point tht out ...not tryin to offend ne 1

tracygarrett Ravenclaw

haha, sorry about the typo....I think I was thinking about the 7th book and typed a 7 instead of a 2...

Can the portrait of Dumbeldore be moved? Or do the headmaster portraits have the same charm that Sirius' mom's portrait employed? B/c if that's the only reason why Hogwarts has to open (for Harry and Co. to get info from Dumbledore's portrait), it's pretty weak, and I don't buy it.

On a side note, do you think Snape had a look of hatred on his face before killing Dumbledore b/c maybe he hated doing it or hated Voldemort himself, or possibly even Narcissa and Bellatrix for putting him in that position in the first place? Or maybe he hated Dumbledore for a reason other than what we think. In another thread I posted the idea that Dumbledore and Snape had made an unbreakable vow/promise/oath of their own where Snape was asked to, under no circumstances, allow Draco to kill Dumbledore. Also to protect Draco and all other students (but most especially Harry). Perhaps, then, Snape was filled with hatred towards Dumbledore for bringing it upon him to kill the headmaster. That would also explain why he didn't go on killing and merely deterred any spell Harry sent after him, and never attacking Harry himself...In that scenario, Snape is a double agent for the Order and for the Death Eaters as he is VERY accomplished at occulemency (sp? closing his mind) so that even the dark lord himself can not penetrate his thoughts. This way he can tell the people in the Order the important things he hears.

kobra_fang Serpentine Lord

Originally posted by tracygarrett
if that's the only reason why Hogwarts has to open (for Harry and Co. to get info from Dumbledore's portrait), it's pretty weak, and I don't buy it.

I think it will re-open. People will want their education. The Ministry sent out those leaflets on self-defence, but people will want to learn how to properly protect themselves. That could be a reason for opening. Plus, I want to see if the DADA job's curse is lifted after LV is killed.

Originally posted by tracygarrett
In that scenario, Snape is a double agent for the Order and for the Death Eaters as he is VERY accomplished at occulemency

That was one thing that made me think he was really a traitor. LV is supposed to be the most accomplished Ligilimens in the world, and Snape would have to be a really good Occlumens to deter LV. He doesn't seem to be a very good Ligilimens, though, as Draco was able to keep Snape out of his thoughts at a time when he must have been angry at Snape for trying to interfere with the plot to kill DD, so not concentrating on Occlumency much...

Dead_man_wanted Junior Member

Re: Debate 5: Will Hogwarts reopen next year?

of course it will
why wouldnt it eh??
I belive that a better principal will come
c'mon think about it a Head Master head of all magicians
gettin killed by a stupid half blood potions teacher??
then this means Dumbledore aint that smart!!

alesha1 Junior Member

Originally posted by tracygarrett
haha, sorry about the typo....I think I was thinking about the 7th book and typed a 7 instead of a 2...

Can the portrait of Dumbeldore be moved? Or do the headmaster portraits have the same charm that Sirius' mom's portrait employed? B/c if that's the only reason why Hogwarts has to open (for Harry and Co. to get info from Dumbledore's portrait), it's pretty weak, and I don't buy it.

On a side note, do you think Snape had a look of hatred on his face before killing Dumbledore b/c maybe he hated doing it or hated Voldemort himself, or possibly even Narcissa and Bellatrix for putting him in that position in the first place? Or maybe he hated Dumbledore for a reason other than what we think. In another thread I posted the idea that Dumbledore and Snape had made an unbreakable vow/promise/oath of their own where Snape was asked to, under no circumstances, allow Draco to kill Dumbledore. Also to protect Draco and all other students (but most especially Harry). Perhaps, then, Snape was filled with hatred towards Dumbledore for bringing it upon him to kill the headmaster. That would also explain why he didn't go on killing and merely deterred any spell Harry sent after him, and never attacking Harry himself...In that scenario, Snape is a double agent for the Order and for the Death Eaters as he is VERY accomplished at occulemency (sp? closing his mind) so that even the dark lord himself can not penetrate his thoughts. This way he can tell the people in the Order the important things he hears.

i think that there is a sticking charm on the back on the portrait, but what i was thinking is remember when the pictures moved form their 1st picture to their 2nd? mabey harry could have dumbledoor's second picture. 💃 and i really do think that snape hated dumbledoor, because in the begining of the book when he was talking to the sisters he said he had just been using DD. well if Snape made a Unbreakable Vow with DD and DD told him to not let Draco kill him,then he knew of Voldemort's plan. well he blocked all of harry's spells because he knew that Voldemort wanted to kill Harry by himself.

Englishpin@pple Senior Member

who cares if it will reopen or not harry and co. isnt going there

anyway

HPRox90 Auror

I think that they will go back there at least once, but not to learn anything. There might be a Horcux there.

alesha1 Junior Member

Originally posted by HPRox90
I think that they will go back there at least once, but not to learn anything. There might be a Horcux there.
WHAT HORCUX!!!??? 😠

HPRox90 Auror

There's still one Horcux left that they never figured out. It's supposedly from either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.

mrblack Junior Member

i think it will re open cause it wont be a harry potter book with out hogwarts

Englishpin@pple Senior Member
Originally posted by HPRox90
There's still one Horcux left that they never figured out. It's supposedly from either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.

and the huffulpuff and slyerin

bballchick_21_1 Junior Member

i thnk it will but i heard that hermine loves weasley!!!!!!!!!! but i dont think its true do u think it does???

HPRox90 Auror
Originally posted by Englishpin@pple
and the huffulpuff and slyerin

Yes, but I think that Slytherin's locket will either still be at Grimmauld Place or with Mundungus. Hufflepuff's cup might be at Hogwart's, though.

harrypothead Junior Member

reopening and sirus

all right, all right this is my take yes hogwarts will reopen but, maybe it will be closed due to the ministry which this will give time for harry to find the horocroxes and destroy the remaing ones and find R.A.B with ron and hermione maybe one of the three will die as a big twist (hopefully not) then harry will have to distroy voldmort and after that hogwarts will reopen. (posibility sirus might come back as a goast and Dumbledore is still at hogwarts in the headmistrisses office in the gold frame so techniclie he can go any where a picture frame is in the school)

alesha1 Junior Member

Originally posted by HPRox90
There's still one Horcux left that they never figured out. It's supposedly from either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw.
yeh, but people are saying it is the tiara

alesha1 Junior Member

Originally posted by HPRox90
Yes, but I think that Slytherin's locket will either still be at Grimmauld Place or with Mundungus. Hufflepuff's cup might be at Hogwart's, though.
i don't think the locket is with mundiungus, it might be at grimmauld place

^^[leane] ...
Originally posted by bballchick_21_1
i thnk it will but i heard that hermine loves weasley!!!!!!!!!! but i dont think its true do u think it does???

of cours its true !! and do u know that ron lovs hermione too ?

and i dnt see why hogwarts would close i think harry etc will still go to hogwarts

malobolo The Evil One

Well, the books are seven, and so are the years in Hogwarts. Coincidence? I dont think so! So i bet the school will reopen and that Harry is going to be there as a "regular" student, but with more "freedom of movement"

About the portrait idea i think is just lame, and thats for a simple reason: As DD say, every death director has the possibility to walk from one of their portraits to another to help the new director, even if they dont like it. And there is a reason than DD is going to be the most informed character in the last book: The chocolate toads!! and thats why he was always so concerned about him being pulling out of em.

So Harry wont have to go to the portrait in the Directors office, just look at his card and talk to it (but he is very slow so i bet he wont notice that until the chapter 20 or something...)