]Nate Grey VS Phoenix[

Started by Xplosive20 pages

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
XP is English your second language?

Read my post above and educate yourself on the concept behind Phoenix. Your ignorance and lack of understanding on the subject has lead to you branding it stupid. But whats more stupid you for branding it so because of ignorance or the writers for daring to introduce complex concepts into their comics? Educate yourself

No, you don't understand shit, GalacticStorm. And it is not complex. It's unoriginal story, that is it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
XP is English your second language?

Read my post above and educate yourself on the concept behind Phoenix. Your ignorance and lack of understanding on the subject has lead to you branding it stupid. But whats more stupid you for branding it so because of ignorance or the writers for daring to introduce complex concepts into their comics? Educate yourself

No, you don't understand shit, GalacticStorm. And it is not complex. It's unoriginal story, that is it. Don't you understand that you educated many here about Phoenix, avatar, White crown, ultimate mutation, yes, but still they don't like it.
Go read Bible, you will learn from where the story was copied.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No, you don't understand shit, GalacticStorm. And it is not complex. It's unoriginal story, that is it. Don't you understand that you educated many here about Phoenix, avatar, White crown, ultimate mutation, yes, but still they don't like it.
Go read Bible, you will find there similar story.

Ok would you like to tell me what the concept behind Phoenix and its role in the multiverse is? Exactly. You can barely type comprehensible english i can hardly expect you to have knowledge on the omega theory. 🙄

You dont understand XP that theres a lot more to Phoenix than some kaballah parallels. You're ignorant on the subject you're the one who's at fault, educate yourself before firing off your mouth. Otherwise you only make yourself look very silly.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ok would you like to tell me what the concept behind Phoenix and its role in the multiverse is? Exactly. You can barely type comprehensible english i can hardly expect you to have knowledge on the omega theory. 🙄

Because English is not my first language, I have no knowledge. Nikola Tesla wasn't English, wow, but probably most brilliant man ever born.
Wow, I didn't think you are stupid, reading Phoenix stories thosusands times and still don't get it. Hey, and do you know what, I could copy your threads and paste, because you told concpet about Phoenix ziilion times in longest post ever so it's not worth it. And most annoying is, about you telling that Phoenix created abstracts and that... and being second to TOAA, Jan as avatar, ultiamte mutation, ****ing disgusting.
Now I will told about Omega Theory taht is about mathematical explanation of the existence of God and the afterlife. It argues scientific progress and the evolution of human intelligence are bound to grow exponentially, leading to the development of one omnipotent artificial intelligence ''God'' whose computing speed outpaces the universe’s collapse, thus providing infinite "virtual time" which could be used to resurrect anyone who ever lived.
To gain control over matter and energy on cosmic scales and finally evolve to the ultimate limit, infinite knowledge and power. It was this vision of how life could literally remake the universe.

Like I said, Phoenix copied story and unoriginal one. It's not hard to make such story, when you know that, only what you need to do is to put Phoenix in that theory.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Because English is not my first language, I have no knowledge. Nikola Tesla wasn't English, wow, but probably most brilliant man ever born.
Wow, I didn't think you are stupid, reading Phoenix stories thosusands times and still don't get it. Hey, and do you know what, I could copy your threads and paste, because you told concpet about Phoenix ziilion times in longest post ever so it's not worth it. And most annoying is, about you telling that Phoenix created abstracts and that... and being second to TOAA, Jan as avatar, ultiamte mutation, ****ing disgusting.
Now I will told about Omega Theory taht is about mathematical explanation of the existence of God and the afterlife. It argues scientific progress and the evolution of human intelligence are bound to grow exponentially, leading to the development of one omnipotent artificial intelligence ''God'' whose computing speed outpaces the universe’s collapse, thus providing infinite "virtual time" which could be used to resurrect anyone who ever lived.
To gain control over matter and energy on cosmic scales and finally evolve to the ultimate limit, infinite knowledge and power. It was this vision of how life could literally remake the universe.

I see during your the time between your last post and this you've googled the theory and done a copy and paste job? Good boy now apply that newfound knowledge to your posts. Virtually no concepts in comics are original however the overuse of some is what makes them cliched. Applying the omega point theory to the marvel universe and connecting phoenix to it was a very brave thing to do and its a very interesting concept, one not really used to any great effect in marvel or DC comics before. So again i say educate yourself XP.

"Like I said, Phoenix copied story and unoriginal one." Pssssh 🙄

Originally posted by Xplosive
No, you don't understand shit, GalacticStorm. And it is not complex. It's unoriginal story, that is it. Don't you understand that you educated many here about Phoenix, avatar, White crown, ultimate mutation, yes, but still they don't like it.
Go read Bible, you will learn from where the story was copied.
Can you cite, book, chapter and verse for me? Because I don't see much of a parrellel. . .

I mean the avatar thing being a representation and agent of a higher power is obvious . . .

But those other things?

Thank you Creshosk he doesnt know what the hell he's talking about

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I see during your the time between your last post and this you've googled the theory and done a copy and paste job? Good boy now apply that newfound knowledge to your posts. Virtually no concepts in comics are original however the overuse of some is what makes them cliched. Applying the omega point theory to the marvel universe and connecting phoenix to it was a very brave thing to do and its a very interesting concept, one not really used to any great effect in marvel or DC comics before. So again i say educate yourself XP.

Like I said, Phoenix copied story and unoriginal one.

Actully I already knew that and story myself. You know there are books that have explanation about that and you know what I have learned about many things in physiqc, I have chosen pshicys to be additional (I was going on psyicy just beaucse of that, therieos, especialyl because of Nikole Tesla) for me, to learn more, I know a lot more that just that theory, espeacilly about Tesla.
I don't know why are you still telling me to educate, you know what, you go educate and read Phoenix again all stories for 5000 times already.

''Like I said, Phoenix copied story and unoriginal one.''
Wow, you agree, no I actully educated you. Why didn't you admitt that yourself.
You are not smart GalacticStorm.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Actully I already knew that and story myself. You know there are books that have explanation about that and you know what I have learned about many things in physiqc, I have chosen pshicys to be additional (I was going on psyicy just beaucse of that, therieos, especialyl because of Nikole Tesla) for me, to learn more, I know a lot more that just that theory, espeacilly about Tesla.
I don't know why are you still telling me to educate, you know what, you go educate and read Phoenix again all stories for 5000 times already.

''Like I said, Phoenix copied story and unoriginal one.''
Wow, you agree, no I actully educated you.

Judging from the state of your posts you're really in no position to be educating anyone. 🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
Can you cite, book, chapter and verse for me? Because I don't see much of a parrellel. . .

I mean the avatar thing being a representation and agent of a higher power is obvious . . .

But those other things?

I already did, Omega and Bible, all you need to know. The idea from where they borrowed it.

There is no complex and bringing concept from Omega theory is no brave thing, it's stupid thing, if they cannot make something original don't write than.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I already did, Omega and Bible, all you need to know.

You really make it quite apparent that you know precious little on the subject yet you still think you can go on to credibly criticise the concepts? 🙄

Sorry mate it really doesnt work like that. 🙂

You claim that i have educated you throughly on all matters to do with Phoenix yet i see little evidence of this. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You really make it quite apparent that you know precious little on the subject yet you still think you can go on to credibly criticise the concepts? 🙄

Sorry mate it really doesnt work like that. 🙂

You claim that i have educated you throughly on all matters to do with Phoenix yet i see little evidence of this. 🙁

Hhaha, you really need time to understand things. By sucker. 😄 😮

Originally posted by Xplosive
Hhaha, you really need time to understand things.

Yor previous posts render this statement a case of pot calling the kettle black. 🙄

You're quick to trumpet apocalypse as the greatest mutant out and a good concept however a former slave rising up and defeating his master is hardly an original concept is it? There are no original concepts in comics these days however its the way those ideas are executed that makes all the difference. New Xmen was an acclaimed title and Grant Morrisons interpretation of phoenix fixed all of the holes the retcon had poked into marvel continuity.

Yes good riddance and take your illiterate nonsensical posts with you.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I already did, Omega,
The omega theory? Yeah that's obvious.

Originally posted by Xplosive
and Bible, all you need to know. The idea from where they borrowed it.
Again, can you cite specifics?

And you know you're not exactly one to be pointing fingers about "uncreative" storys for characters.

Originally posted by Xplosive
if they cannot make something original don't write than.

That's funny coming from someone sporting an Apocalypse Avatar and signature.

Originally posted by grey fox
now now chldren, play nice

"we need to learn to controll our emotions" meditate

Jean wins...Test Tube baby Cable goes down. she'd beat'em bad punch

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well have you got any ideas Nat or are you happy to just criticise whilst being unable to come up with alternative suggestions? The idea behind phoenix, being the ultimate mutation is all based on both kaballah principles and more specifically Pierre Teilhard de Chardins "Omega Point" theory. A very interesting concept which i presume you know nothing about. Google it and educate yourself on the concept before calling it ridiculous.

How about we go by the Nataku theory that says "All marvel writers that handle X-men comics get off on mutant powers, and are required by marvel to keep themselves hopped up on a steady supply of viagra at all times to keep their 'fine' writing skills at their 'peak'."

Maybe keeping the Phoenix as a very powerful multiuniversal entity, while still having limits (As all things, except, as I believe, the cause of creation) would've kept the whole thing more interesting. You can be the ultimate mutation until the end of time, but things have to have a limit, seriously, you and I both know that if X-men comics weren't holding up 10% (at least, considering marvel is ~34%) of the comic industry, Marvel wouldn't have made one of them the 'ultimate being in the multiverse'.

Why don't you stop throwing around fancy names, fancy words, fancy ideas, and stop whineing so much when people have an opinion that opposes yours. Maybe if Marvel actually listened to people who read comics besides X-related comics, these things wouldn't happen. Then again, that would end up costing them money, and we all know money drives comics, because comics like the recent Namor and SS got canceled due to lack of sales, rather than lack of story. Isn't that right GS?