Originally posted by olympian
She has at much - a- millenia of experience on a certain story. Out of that Namor is much more experinced both inside the comics world, and outside of it by appearances since his creation. And that last part its scretching alot.
While i totally agree Wonder Woman belongs in the tier above, lets not get - that - far. Namor isent far from it either.
Wrong. She DOES have several milleniums of experience. The Superman story is simply not the only millenial war she was in.
In one such story she was trapped on another planet for several centuries while powerless. She led a rebellion against a horrid dictator. However in her world only a week or two at most past. Also her mother Hipployta made her train with the gods themselves in order to better understand her powers. Thus she spent centuries more in Olympus and Tartartus. However in her world it was barely a day or two at most since time moves much more differently on Olympus.
Namor doesn't have more experience than Diana. He fought in WWII? So what? So did Diana under the disguise of Miss America fighting alongside her mother. She was there for the entire duration of the war.
"Also her mother Hipployta made her train with the gods themselves in order to better understand her powers. Thus she spent centuries more in Olympus and Tartartus"
When did that happened?
"Namor doesn't have more experience than Diana. He fought in WWII? So what? So did Diana under the disguise of Miss America fighting alongside her mother. She was there for the entire duration of the war."
Wich shouldnt count unless they retconned back the recton that it was only Hyppolita that fought in WW2 as Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by olympian
"When did that happened?
During her childhood at Themyscira. She couldn't control her powers. And Phillipus doubted she could improve her control. Thus Hipployta prayed to the gods to help train Diana in control of her powers.
Diana almost killed a dozen of her friends during a training session due to her enormous strength.
Originally posted by olympian
"Wich shouldnt count unless they retconned back the recton that it was only Hyppolita that fought in WW2 as Wonder Woman.
It does count. Diana missed her mother and wanted to say things to her she couldn't have said since she was already dead. So, due to the appearance of Villainy Inc., she traveled back through time and fought alongside her mother and the JSA under the disguise of Miss America.
"During her childhood at Themyscira. She couldn't control her powers. And Phillipus doubted she could improve her control. Thus Hipployta prayed to the gods to help train Diana in control of her powers.
Diana almost killed a dozen of her friends during a training session due to her enormous strength. "
Is this the Perez origin or another? The Perez one never had her training in Olympus or Tartarus. When she went to Tartarus and made chalenges of the Gods, not only was she already showed in the mainstream DC universe, she had also her training complete.
"It does count. Diana missed her mother and wanted to say things to her she couldn't have said since she was already dead. So, due to the appearance of Villainy Inc., she traveled back through time and fought alongside her mother and the JSA under the disguise of Miss America"
What issue was that in? I only had read her mother as the classic Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by olympian
Is this the Perez origin or another? The Perez one never had her training in Olympus or Tartarus. When she went to Tartarus and made chalenges of the Gods, not only was she already showed in the mainstream DC universe, she had also her training complete.
The thing you must understand about Diana's origin is that is retconed ALOT. During the Perez era the trainings with gods were never mentioned. During the LATER eras the trainings with gods slowly put surely coming to light.
Jimenez also did a HUGE retcon of Diana's origin involving Donna Troy.
WW has one of the most confusing and baffling histories in comicdom. Next to Hawkman and Power Girl of course.
"It does count. Diana missed her mother and wanted to say things to her she couldn't have said since she was already dead. So, due to the appearance of Villainy Inc., she traveled back through time and fought alongside her mother and the JSA under the disguise of Miss America"
Originally posted by olympian
What issue was that in? I only had read her mother as the classic Wonder Woman.
I don't know the specific issue. But it was during the very last issues written by Phil Jimenez. I distinctly remember Hipployta in bed with Wildcat. 😘
Originally posted by Draco69
It was a joke comic. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Champ beat the Avengers, Thor, the X-Men AND Adam Warlock on his own.
He didn't use his powers. (No PP, and no power gem)
In that same Issue he defeated strongest beings in the Universe (heroes)
The likes of Drax , Silver Surfer , BRB , Adam etc
Him beating Odin is ridiculous tho.
"The thing you must understand about Diana's origin is that is retconed ALOT. During the Perez era the trainings with gods were never mentioned. During the LATER eras the trainings with gods slowly put surely coming to light.
Jimenez also did a HUGE retcon of Diana's origin involving Donna Troy."
Ah got it, because nowhere during the Perez era was it stated or showed that. And i didnt followed Phils era in Wonder Woman.
"WW has one of the most confusing and baffling histories in comicdom. Next to Hawkman and Power Girl of course."
Wich is one of the things that usually gets me off the character. Rucka at least even i dont like some of his portraials of the Gods, has been consistence and enjoyable at the same time.
"I don't know the specific issue. But it was during the very last issues written by Phil Jimenez. I distinctly remember Hipployta in bed with Wildcat"
Oh, wait. I remember that 😛
"Him beating Odin is ridiculous tho"
Champion didnt went against Odin, and never defeated him either. In that issue he only fought, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator and somewhere else i dont recall. Warlock, right?
Originally posted by kgkg
Not really a jokeHe didn't use his powers. (No PP, and no power gem)
In that same Issue he defeated strongest beings in the Universe (heroes)
The likes of Drax , Silver Surfer , BRB , Adam etc
Him beating Odin is ridiculous tho.
Champion has immense strength even without the gem, and STILL, billions of years of experience in fighting. And She-Hulk puts he down with boxing? PLEASE. 🙄