Originally posted by Evil Dead
I did.People stop believing in Santa because they learn more about the world around them and realize how impractical/impossible it is for a fat man to travel around the world in one night, sliding down chimneys, leaving presents for good boys and girls. Same thing for me.....just insert Jesus over Santa.
Yes and some people learn more about the world around them and realize that it's highly probable that we are not here by some unbelivable random chance.With most people i've met who are atheist it comes down to not wanting to conform to religous rules.Some people (I belive Debbie Jo and Shakyamunison are two of these people) still hold strong religous belifes,but go against the grain of what they where taught because they see past the BS.This doesn't mean they have outgrown religon.They just simply find a new way of understanding.
Originally posted by mr.smiley
Yes and some people learn more about the world around them and realize that it's highly probable that we are not here by some unbelivable random chance.With most people i've met who are atheist it comes down to not wanting to conform to religious rules.Some people (I belive Debbie Jo and Shakyamunison are two of these people) still hold strong religious belifes,but go against the grain of what they where taught because they see past the BS.This doesn't mean they have outgrown religon.They just simply find a new way of understanding.
Yes, very correct. I made a chose to be religious because it makes me happy. I picked a good religion that focused on positive things and would let me believe what I wanted too. I "outgrow it" but then realized the benefit I had lost. Thanks for the kind words.
first man on moon neil armstrong Christian
and he lived a happy life went to harvard and all that
there are freaking tons of celebrity that are christian
in my life i havent met one person that regretted being a christain
if u are like 100% sure that God doesnt exist
then tell me the answer to these question
lance armstrong how he beated cancer
one of my close friend, one night snorted like 6 hydrocrodine and then he drank a bunch of alcohol
and then all of a sudden he felt really really bad....
so he went home and woke his parents up and he was telling all the stuff that he did(confessing)
but he was too messed up to even speak to them so
he grabbed his mom and dads hand and he started praying "Lord please get all the drugs out of my body so i can talk to my parents"
and so on while praying all of a sudden my friend started nose bleeding like crazy, he bled like a gallon and then all of a sudden it stopped. he didnt put his head back or anything to stop the bleeding, it just stopped right away and he was completely fine
no alcohol in his body and no hydrocodine in his body.
he was completely fine
if christianity is fake how come it has never been proven to be fake..
movie exorcist and a movie coming out exorcism of emily rose
based on a true story....
tell me the answer to those
answer my question then u can question me and as a human being
i will try to answer urs
Originally posted by jacobo0o
first man on moon neil armstrong Christian
and he lived a happy life went to harvard and all that
there are freaking tons of celebrity that are christian
in my life i havent met one person that regretted being a christain
if u are like 100% sure that God doesnt exist
then tell me the answer to these question
lance armstrong how he beated cancer
one of my close friend, one night snorted like 6 hydrocrodine and then he drank a bunch of alcohol
and then all of a sudden he felt really really bad....
so he went home and woke his parents up and he was telling all the stuff that he did(confessing)
but he was too messed up to even speak to them so
he grabbed his mom and dads hand and he started praying "Lord please get all the drugs out of my body so i can talk to my parents"
and so on while praying all of a sudden my friend started nose bleeding like crazy, he bled like a gallon and then all of a sudden it stopped. he didnt put his head back or anything to stop the bleeding, it just stopped right away and he was completely fine
no alcohol in his body and no hydrocodine in his body.
he was completely fineif christianity is fake how come it has never been proven to be fake..
movie exorcist and a movie coming out exorcism of emily rose
based on a true story....
tell me the answer to thoseanswer my question then u can question me and as a human being
i will try to answer urs
I have a invisible 30 foot dragon guiding me everyday, can you disprove its existence? NO...does that mean it does exist just because you can't disprove it...NO
As for the prayer thing, there is an easy explanation. Let's say 20 people who are about to die all pray, probably 17 of them will die and 3 will survive. The 3 that live believe their prayers allowed them to live, but the 17 others whose prayers did not help at all are simply forgotten.
Originally posted by masterbruce
1. Sure Saint Nicholas existed, just like a guy named Jesus. But did Saint Nicholas actually ride reindeers and stuff himself down chimneys...um no. He was exaggerated into a myth, just like you know who.2. My point is that if you hear the same message for the entirety of your life regardless of how false it may be, you tend to believe it without any evidence.
3. Atheists think the world revolves around luck...since when? Actually come to think of it, luck would be a better explanation of how our world works than the belief of the existence of a benevolent god. I mean why else would very good innocent people suffer horrible fates while evil people succeed...luck would be a rather satisfying answer, at least more so than a supposedly good god who turns the other eye or doesnt give a damn.
4. Greeks wrote book about Zeus, Poseidon, etc, ...Norse had Odin, Thor etc. Aztecs had written literature about taking living hearts for sacrifice to their gods...so does having something written down prove the paucity of its existence? NO
1. The difference is, in the Bible Jesus says there is a god, and the Bible says he did miracles and so did the prophets. But Santa doesn't even have a book, and the original story of Saint Nicholas which we all do actually know/believe is true says nothing about reindeer unlike the Bible which does actually talk abut a God and Miracles.
2. And do i believe in you? Did I say you exist? I have a weird feeling you're pulling yourself into a U turn here.
Are you saying gods miracles are false? They never happened? But you just said Jesus existed! I know you exist, because who else could be making those messages? And you claim to be someone, god has said he was there too.
By the way god wouldn't lie about his name, there would be no point.
3. I don't know what you mean by a god who turns a blind eye and doesn't give a damn, have you heard of Noah and the Flood? The rest is under the next quote.
4. What has happened recently goes against what their books would claim, do you know anyone who believes in those religions? Plus they are more likely than having no god atall.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I agree with what you've said, but as for things being "Luck"...I don't believe that....There is something else goin on. Nothing Biblical, but somethng else.
The reason I think Atheists say it all happened by chance is because thay say that the moon is in the right position to block the sun by chance, it says earth harbours life by chance etc etc. Science on the other hand only says this if it knew the answer to the existance of god.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
no Bruce................DON'T!!!!!!!!this kid is 14 years old........and a dim one at that. Do not reply to him.....he will just eat up your time replying to his incoherent/uneducated posts. Stick with Shaky, myself, Atlantis and Dancer...................
1. I see you have never heard of freedom of choice who talk to, plus you just called Debbiejo dim and uneducated. As she agreed with my view.
2. So i have actually proven your whole idea of no god completely wrong, you are just going to ignore me because you don't want to believe the truth and you don't want others to fall to the truth.
Originally posted by masterbruce
I have a invisible 30 foot dragon guiding me everyday, can you disprove its existence? NO...does that mean it does exist just because you can't disprove it...NOAs for the prayer thing, there is an easy explanation. Let's say 20 people who are about to die all pray, probably 17 of them will die and 3 will survive. The 3 that live believe their prayers allowed them to live, but the 17 others whose prayers did not help at all are simply forgotten.
1. The first bit i have already explained wrong either here or somewhere else.
2. Very Simple, If god let all Christians live then noone would ever die.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
1. I see you have never heard of freedom of choice who talk to, plus you just called Debbiejo dim and uneducated. As she agreed with my view.
😑 Could elaborate on that a little further, cause I don't recall that...Are you taking things out of context...hmmmm?
I've always considered myself a bright and shining star.....not dim at all... 😄
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
1. The difference is, in the Bible Jesus says there is a god, and the Bible says he did miracles and so did the prophets. But Santa doesn't even have a book, and the original story of Saint Nicholas which we all do actually know/believe is true says nothing about reindeer unlike the Bible which does actually talk abut a God and Miracles.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
2. And do i believe in you? Did I say you exist? I have a weird feeling you're pulling yourself into a U turn here.
Are you saying gods miracles are false? They never happened? But you just said Jesus existed! I know you exist, because who else could be making those messages? And you claim to be someone, god has said he was there too.
By the way god wouldn't lie about his name, there would be no point.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
3. I don't know what you mean by a god who turns a blind eye and doesn't give a damn, have you heard of Noah and the Flood? The rest is under the next quote.
What has happened recently goes against what their books would claim, do you know anyone who believes in those religions? Plus they are more likely than having no god atall.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
The reason I think Atheists say it all happened by chance is because thay say that the moon is in the right position to block the sun by chance, it says earth harbours life by chance etc etc. Science on the other hand only says this if it knew the answer to the existance of god.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
1. I see you have never heard of freedom of choice who talk to, plus you just called Debbiejo dim and uneducated. As she agreed with my view.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
2. So i have actually proven your whole idea of no god completely wrong, you are just going to ignore me because you don't want to believe the truth and you don't want others to fall to the truth.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A couple of thousand years ago a carpenter and political dissident named Yeshua ben Yosef existed. He is the basis of the Jesus myth in the same way Sinterklaas is the basis of Santa. Children are regaled with the miraculous feats of Santa, in the same way adults are regaled with the miraculous feats of Jesus. Fiction is fiction, whether it's written or spoken.Read above. A man named Joshua existed. God posted on KMC?
Current knowledge goes against what your book claims.
*Deciphering gibberish.* Go ask a physicist how a lunar eclipse occurs.
I don't presume to speak for debbiejo (as you seem to have) but I don't recall her agreeing with you.
You prove nothing but your own ignorance of the posts others have made.
1. Words on paper stay, words from the mouth can be changed much easier because the original words dissappear. So you say Jesus exists but but the miracles never happened? That's weird because Jesus DID the miracles with god, there would have been no reason to lie about the miracles when the news was being told. I could say evolution was a conspiracy, it's just as likely.
2. God posted in the Bible, are we getting somewhere here? Your existance on this page could be fake, the only proof i will ever see is if i met you in real life/you will only believe in god if you see him or see a convincing enough miracle.
3. Does the bible say that the earth is layed on the back of a giant tortoise? No, It says that it was hung in nothing. Does the Bible worship a rock in the shape of a human? No, it worships a spirit. As a fact the Bible rarely goes against science, The Bible doesn't even have to follow science atall but most of the time it does. Do I have to say again that god made science?
4. Go back a few pages and you'll see where she agrees.
5. That was specifically for Evil Dead.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
1. Words on paper stay, words from the mouth can be changed much easier because the original words dissappear. So you say Jesus exists but but the miracles never happened? That's weird because Jesus DID the miracles with god, there would have been no reason to lie about the miracles when the news was being told. I could say evolution was a conspiracy, it's just as likely.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
2. God posted in the Bible, are we getting somewhere here? Your existance on this page could be fake, the only proof i will ever see is if i met you in real life/you will only believe in god if you see him or see a convincing enough miracle.
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
3. Does the bible say that the earth is layed on the back of a giant tortoise?
Originally posted by Chibi Boy
No, It says that it was hung in nothing. Does the Bible worship a rock in the shape of a human? No, it worships a spirit. As a fact the Bible rarely goes against science, The Bible doesn't even have to follow science atall but most of the time it does. Do I have to say again that god made science?