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Originally posted by Draco69
Against mobsters and rapists. With guns. Not mutants that can emit big-ass laser beams.
Originally posted by jgiant
not mutants with laser beams...maybe. but against meta human beings he has come out on top. One shot from either of them will put the other away. Whose the better shot? Scott has one weapon with limited range, frank has a rainstorm of bullets and genades, it is easier for scott to get hit.
Limited Range? His optic blasts can level entire skyscapers with a single blast. All it takes is one SUPER OPTIC BLAST and Frankie is literally a pile of dust.
As for the bullets and grenades....a huge optic blast would nullify them.
Originally posted by Draco69
Limited Range? His optic blasts can level entire skyscapers with a single blast. All it takes is one SUPER OPTIC BLAST and Frankie is literally a pile of dust.As for the bullets and grenades....a huge optic blast would nullify them.
All frank has to do is throw a flashbang or frag grenade to rattle scott then he just picks him off. Its just whose better drawing imo...not a picture, their weapons. not saying scott cant fry frank just whoever gets their weapon out first. yes i know scotts is just a reaction a way but so is frank. imo it could go either way w/o prep. 6/10 for scott. with prep 10/10 for frank.
The thing is, Cyclops doesn't have to "draw." He has to THINK, and BZAP.
If he goes wide-burst, he could easily kill the Punisher. But for the sake of argument, let's assume this fight takes place inside a city. Cyclops wouldn't be willing to risk pedestrians, even at the cost of his own life, so he'll have to be more precise.
That gives Frank a chance, provided the terrain is in his favor. If there are enough large objects in Cyclops's field of vision or around him (like if they were in a forest, for example), then Punisher's SEAL training would allow him to get a drop on Cyke. On the other hand, if Scott is standing in the salt flats (completely level field), and Frank has to start some distance off, Cyclops can pick him off without even needing to go wide-burst--he's expertly precise with his optic beams.
Originally posted by Piedmon
The thing is, Cyclops doesn't have to "draw." He has to THINK, and BZAP.If he goes wide-burst, he could easily kill the Punisher. But for the sake of argument, let's assume this fight takes place inside a city. Cyclops wouldn't be willing to risk pedestrians, even at the cost of his own life, so he'll have to be more precise.
That gives Frank a chance, provided the terrain is in his favor. If there are enough large objects in Cyclops's field of vision or around him (like if they were in a forest, for example), then Punisher's SEAL training would allow him to get a drop on Cyke. On the other hand, if Scott is standing in the salt flats (completely level field), and Frank has to start some distance off, Cyclops can pick him off without even needing to go wide-burst--he's expertly precise with his optic beams.
Who says this has to be an all out fight? As long as it's in the city, let's assume Punisher really wants to play this smart. He's the type of guy to watch through the window with a sniper rifle at the ready. While Cyclops is the type of guy to run around in bright blue spandex looking for his enemy, making him an easy target. Unless Cyke feels unusually sneaky and wears his civies. It really depends on who wants to stay alive the most.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Cyclops doesn't start off doing one of those wide-burst-super-optic blasts. That's like Torch going supernova right off the bat.