Respect Namor

Originally posted by jrodslam
And if Hulk truly was the "strongest on there is.", it shouldnt matter if its land or sea. 😬

Hulk should have the advanage no matter what right? 🙄

Yeah, Hulk is the STRONGEST one there is. Strength has nothing to do with anything. The quote "strongest one there is" has nothing to do with this. What I'm saying is that Namor can only beat the Hulk if he's in HIS turf. Otherwise he gets his ass kicked by Hulk because he's not tough enough to take him outside of his turf.

And yes it does matter if it's land or sea. It matters because in the sea, Namor has the upper hand. He can breath underwater, can swim a heck of a lot faster than Hulk and has total control in water, can command sea animals to do what he wants, and has more strength in water. So it does matter.

Just think about it, what if Hulk once fought Namor in a planet or place where there were constantly nuclear explosions and there was radiation everywhere. Since there would be nuclear explosions and radiation all over, Hulk would get REALLY strong because he absorbs the radiation and gets stronger. Obviously Hulk would have an advantage over Namor and Namor would lose right? It wouldn't seem so fair that Hulk is in a turf that gives him an advantage over Namor now would it? Well the same thing with Namor. When he is in the sea, he has an advantage over Hulk and obviously he's going to win. If he really was tougher than Hulk then he would be able to take Hulk on land where neither of them have an advantage over the other.

Originally posted by King Thor
Yeah, Hulk is the STRONGEST one there is. Strength has nothing to do with anything. The quote "strongest one there is" has nothing to do with this. What I'm saying is that Namor can only beat the Hulk if he's in HIS turf. Otherwise he gets his ass kicked by Hulk because he's not tough enough to take him outside of his turf.

And yes it does matter if it's land or sea. It matters because in the sea, Namor has the upper hand. He can breath underwater, can swim a heck of a lot faster than Hulk and has total control in water, can command sea animals to do what he wants, and has more strength in water. So it does matter.

Just think about it, what if Hulk once fought Namor in a planet or place where there were constantly nuclear explosions and there was radiation everywhere. Since there would be nuclear explosions and radiation all over, Hulk would get REALLY strong because he absorbs the radiation and gets stronger. Obviously Hulk would have an advantage over Namor and Namor would lose right? It wouldn't seem so fair that Hulk is in a turf that gives him an advantage over Namor now would it? Well the same thing with Namor. When he is in the sea, he has an advantage over Hulk and obviously he's going to win. If he really was tougher than Hulk then he would be able to take Hulk on land where neither of them have an advantage over the other.

Hulk has yet to ko Namor on land. Unless you can show otherwise. Threfore everything youre saying gets nulled. Hulk cant beat him in the water because you say "Namor has all the advantages...blah blah." Yet when they fight on land, Hulk STILL cant ko him. Does Namor still have advantages then? Stop making excuses for Hulk.

Respect Namor.

Originally posted by King Thor
Yeah, Hulk is the STRONGEST one there is. Strength has nothing to do with anything. The quote "strongest one there is" has nothing to do with this. What I'm saying is that Namor can only beat the Hulk if he's in HIS turf. Otherwise he gets his ass kicked by Hulk because he's not tough enough to take him outside of his turf.

And yes it does matter if it's land or sea. It matters because in the sea, Namor has the upper hand. He can breath underwater, can swim a heck of a lot faster than Hulk and has total control in water, can command sea animals to do what he wants, and has more strength in water. So it does matter.

Just think about it, what if Hulk once fought Namor in a planet or place where there were constantly nuclear explosions and there was radiation everywhere. Since there would be nuclear explosions and radiation all over, Hulk would get REALLY strong because he absorbs the radiation and gets stronger. Obviously Hulk would have an advantage over Namor and Namor would lose right? It wouldn't seem so fair that Hulk is in a turf that gives him an advantage over Namor now would it? Well the same thing with Namor. When he is in the sea, he has an advantage over Hulk and obviously he's going to win. If he really was tougher than Hulk then he would be able to take Hulk on land where neither of them have an advantage over the other.

Namor has spent 80% of his life in the sea. It's not unfair. It is his natural habitat.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor has spent 80% of his life in the sea. It's not unfair. It is his natural habitat.

Yeah but it's not Hulk's. If it was to be a fair fight then they should BOTH fight OUTSIDE of the water and on LAND. Namor in water only means that he has an advantage over Hulk. Not that he's stronger, tougher, or a better fighter than Hulk.

Originally posted by King Thor
Yeah but it's not Hulk's. If it was to be a fair fight then they should BOTH fight OUTSIDE of the water and on LAND. Namor in water only means that he has an advantage over Hulk. Not that he's stronger, tougher, or a better fighter than Hulk.

Unfair. Land is Hulk's natural habitat, he has advantages. 🙄

They should fight somewhere where Namor would not dehydrate all the time...where he would be as strong as he is on water.

And if you imply that Hulk is better fighter...you really want me to prove you wrong?

If Namor was to wear his wet suit that Reed made him years ago, and fought Hulk on land, the fight would go on for a long time.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Unfair. Land is Hulk's natural habitat, he has advantages. 🙄

They should fight somewhere where Namor would not dehydrate all the time...where he would be as strong as he is on water.

And if you imply that Hulk is better fighter...you really want me to prove you wrong?

Yes but in water, Namor can breath, swim faster, has more control, is stronger, and can command sea creatures. Hulk can only swim, hold his breath for a limited amount of time and THAT'S IT. Other than that Hulk is screwed.

Yes I agree with you on that. They SHOULD fight in a place where Namor has all his strength but Hulk is not at a disadvantage. But no. They always have to fight in Namor's turf. 🙄

I never said that Hulk is a better fighter. What I meant is that by Namor being in the water, it DOESN'T prove that he is TOUGHER, STRONGER, or a BETTER FIGHTER. It just means he has an ADVANTAGE over Hulk. That's all.

Though I DO believe Hulk is a BETTER fighter. And if you want to "prove me wrong" then go ahead. I want to see what you got.

Originally posted by King Thor

Though I DO believe Hulk is a BETTER fighter. And if you want to "prove me wrong" then go ahead. I want to see what you got.

Okay...

Namor has about hundred years of fighting experience. He was fighting in WWII before Hulk was born...before Bruce Banner's mother was born and his grandmother was like ten, in fact. Hulks experience in fighting is laughable compared to Namor.

Namor is an prince of Atlantis. An warrior nation that has existed thousands of years before America was even found by Columbos. They have had thousands of years to perfect the art of fighting. Namor is an royal, ruler of Atlantis and they get lot better fighting training then normal soldier gets, especially on warrior nations.

Compare Namor's training with Namor's experience, and you get someone who is ten times better fighter then Hulk.

Seriously...all Hulk can do is "smash". And Hulk with Banner's brain is not better...Banner is not known for his fighting expertise...

Originally posted by King Thor
Yes but in water, Namor can breath, swim faster, has more control, is stronger, and can command sea creatures. Hulk can only swim, hold his breath for a limited amount of time and THAT'S IT. Other than that Hulk is screwed.

Hulk can hold his breath for a long time for one. Secondly, are you saying that Namor is stronger than Hulk in the water? Are you saying that when Hulk gets in water, his ability to get stronger the madder he gets fades away? No. Also, all of Hulks abilities grow the angrier he gets. He just cant beat Namor in water.

Originally posted by King Thor
Yes I agree with you on that. They SHOULD fight in a place where Namor has all his strength but Hulk is not at a disadvantage. But no. They always have to fight in Namor's turf. 🙄

Again, that not accurate. They have their brief scuffles on land and Hulk rarely has advantages over Namor. Whenever the fights are interrupted, Hulk isnt dominat either, so...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Okay...

Namor has about hundred years of fighting experience. He was fighting in WWII before Hulk was born...before Bruce Banner's mother was born and his grandmother was like ten, in fact. Hulks experience in fighting is laughable compared to Namor.

Namor is an prince of Atlantis. An warrior nation that has existed thousands of years before America was even found by Columbos. They have had thousands of years to perfect the art of fighting. Namor is an royal, ruler of Atlantis and they get lot better fighting training then normal soldier gets, especially on warrior nations.

Compare Namor's training with Namor's experience, and you get someone who is ten times better fighter then Hulk.

Seriously...all Hulk can do is "smash". And Hulk with Banner's brain is not better...Banner is not known for his fighting expertise...

That's not good enough. I want to see scans. Scans are the only way you can prove he is a better fighter than Hulk. Otherwise you aren't proving anything.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hulk can hold his breath for a long time for one. Secondly, are you saying that Namor is stronger than Hulk in the water? Are you saying that when Hulk gets in water, his ability to get stronger the madder he gets fades away? No. Also, all of Hulks abilities grow the angrier he gets. He just cant beat Namor in water.

Again, that not accurate. They have their brief scuffles on land and Hulk rarely has advantages over Namor. Whenever the fights are interrupted, Hulk isnt dominat either, so...

Yes but Hulk can only hold his breath for a LIMITED AMOUNT of TIME. He does get stronger still but he can't swim as fast or command sea creatures. And NO I am not saying Namor is stronger in water. I'm just saying he has an advantage over Hulk. There's a BIG difference between having an advantage and being stronger than someone.

Just got Ult. FF#25...gonna post some scans of Ultimate Namor...SPOILERS:

Ultimate Namor is an jackass:
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7536/ultnamor15tq.gif
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6119/ultnamor24lk.gif
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6717/ultnamor39kb.gif
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/5034/ultnamor49go.gif
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3759/ultnamor58du.gif

But a smart jackass:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4470/ultnamor66xo.gif

Originally posted by King Thor
That's not good enough. I want to see scans. Scans are the only way you can prove he is a better fighter than Hulk. Otherwise you aren't proving anything.

Scans coming up...

Originally posted by King Thor
Yes but Hulk can only hold his breath for a LIMITED AMOUNT of TIME. He does get stronger still but he can't swim as fast or command sea creatures. And NO I am not saying Namor is stronger in water. I'm just saying he has an advantage over Hulk. There's a BIG difference between having an advantage and being stronger than someone.

Well Hulk can swim fast for one. Secondly, when they do fight in water, Namor has never used sea-life to his aid. Namor beats Hulk purely through strength and speed.

Originally posted by King Thor
That's not good enough. I want to see scans. Scans are the only way you can prove he is a better fighter than Hulk. Otherwise you aren't proving anything.

Taken the fact that someone has better experience and training it would translate to be better fighter, but anyway:

http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor18vl.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor26el.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor31vu.gif

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30708285261.gif&s=x11

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5771/namorskills12dx.gif

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5355/namorskill25mw.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5914/namorskills37oe.gif

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6889/namorskills44rc.gif

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2756/namorskills57lj.gif
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8391/namorskills64xn.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4862/namorskills71ip.gif
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3296/namorskills71il.gif

Yo Dark, did you ever see Namor in the graphic "Marvels?"

Originally posted by TheQuincy
Yo Dark, did you ever see Namor in the graphic "Marvels?"

Yes I did.

Breathtaking. Alex Ross is an king. As is Busiek.

Great way for Marvel to honor their first character.

Was Namor part of DC at one point?

Not for my information...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Taken the fact that someone has better experience and training it would translate to be better fighter, but anyway:

http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor18vl.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor26el.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor31vu.gif

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30708285261.gif&s=x11

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7346/namorfeat475ib.gif

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5771/namorskills12dx.gif

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5355/namorskill25mw.gif

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5914/namorskills37oe.gif

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6889/namorskills44rc.gif

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2756/namorskills57lj.gif
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8391/namorskills64xn.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4862/namorskills71ip.gif
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3296/namorskills71il.gif

Those scans just show him punching a bunch of different villains. Just because he's punching different guys it doesn't mean he's a better fighter. I could show you scans of Hulk punching a bunch of different villains but that doesn't mean he's a better fighter than Namor. That just means he punched a bunch of bad guys. That's all.

You know, you said that he's been alive for thousands of years and that he's had LOTS of training and stuff and that he knows how to fight really well, but really I'm not impressed with Namor. With all those years of experience and those "fighting skills" he "has," he should be able to take Hulk easily and not just Hulk but other characters too like Thor and Gladiator. Yet he can't. Really Namor isn't as great as you think. He's not really that strong or good of a fighter.