Respect Hercules

Started by Battlehammer14 pages
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I have seen Avengers reference Spider-Man and Iron Man, it most definetly is NOT canon

..........Are you sure, becauses I own ever issue............

what darkness wolverine or avenger advanture.

so if the world lifting feat is cannon wouldn't that make herc at least superman level? or is a litteral world lifter far far below curret supes now. If herc is supes or higher madddddd respect for the guy and he was robed during JLA/Averngers

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........Are you sure, becauses I own ever issue............

what darkness wolverine or avenger advanture.

Marvel Adventures: Avengers

Originally posted by jasofisc
so if the world lifting feat is cannon wouldn't that make herc at least superman level? or is a litteral world lifter far far below curret supes now. If herc is supes or higher madddddd respect for the guy and he was robed during JLA/Averngers

Some of his uber feats were retconned to him being just boastful. Scott Vandal one of the handbook writers said the Manhatten feat was merely hyperbole and not to be taken as face value *shrugs*

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Marvel Adventures: Avengers

Some of his uber feats were retconned to him being just boastful. Scott Vandal one of the handbook writers said the Manhatten feat was merely hyperbole and not to be taken as face value *shrugs*

you talking about how he told some kids that him and thor were fighting and he lifted up manhatten to beat thor?

Originally posted by jasofisc
you talking about how he told some kids that him and thor were fighting and he lifted up manhatten to beat thor?

Not sure if that's the same feat, but Scott said the one where he used chains to drag Manhatten was merely him boasting. This has not been confirmed on-panel in the actual comics, just a writer who said it.

so is the world lifing feat non cannon and just myth?

Originally posted by jasofisc
so if the world lifting feat is cannon wouldn't that make herc at least superman level? or is a litteral world lifter far far below curret supes now. If herc is supes or higher madddddd respect for the guy and he was robed during JLA/Averngers

Their was a JLA comic I believe where Super Man has to cary the Earth but he needed Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Wonder Woman's help to do it. Although Supes' level of strength probably got hired. Hercules has never been given a definite level of strength even when depowered and he's usually toying with his adversary instead of actually being serious. They don't call him the God of Strength for nothing. He also has been shown to have limited knowledge of magic like when he teleported from one dimension to Earth's dimension and when he turned a Centaur into a constelation.

Originally posted by jasofisc
so is the world lifing feat non cannon and just myth?

It was noted in 616 canon, but were not sure if it was just him being boastful or he actually did it

The link with Hercules and She Hulk where he was asking how tall she was - wich book was it in.

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Originally posted by jasofisc
on the dvd of justice league the new frounteir a myth expert they had on the freaturete talked about a myth concerning hercules racing hermes. does anybody know if that's true. and if it is and if herc did ok against hermes that's really something. i remember someone on here saying that all of herc's myth feats are cannon which would mean herc has super human speed.

He does.

In comics he isent as fast as some speedsters, granted. But hes fast enough to grab a punch here and there.

I consider myth Herc better in some ways than the comic versions, but thats another story, and expected since, well. Its the original take. In those he also fough Hades and Apollo, etc.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
has herc shown to lift up the earth on pannel? Was it ever stated or shown?

It was showed in a flashback in a Thor fill in story during Simonson`s run. Apart from that it has been referenced some times in Marvel 616, most notably when performing his Manhattan feat.

Take it as you will, even if you dont count it hes got at least two other feats of that caliber - (wich is the reason i do count it in the first place). But it really isent something he or Superman would do any day, anyhow. Its that impressive for a reason.

Originally posted by Highfather Herc
Their was a JLA comic I believe where Super Man has to cary the Earth but he needed Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Wonder Woman's help to do it. Although Supes' level of strength probably got hired. Hercules has never been given a definite level of strength even when depowered and he's usually toying with his adversary instead of actually being serious. They don't call him the God of Strength for nothing. He also has been shown to have limited knowledge of magic like when he teleported from one dimension to Earth's dimension and when he turned a Centaur into a constelation.

You are talking about myth, no? At Marvel he is high top tier in strength. Like Thor, supes, Hulk etc. Its not a definitive number gauge (for any of them, in fact) but its sort of a definite range.

Myth Herc was just as strong as the story demanded. In one version he had Athena helping him holding the Earth, in all the others hes doing it alone. And there are more examples.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Some of his uber feats were retconned to him being just boastful. Scott Vandal one of the handbook writers said the Manhatten feat was merely hyperbole and not to be taken as face value *shrugs*

Shouldnt change a thing, tho. Given how he did something of that caliber just recently as a homage to that feat.

Not to mention, am i the only one being amused of something being "retconned" (wich it really isent since it wasent changed in a Marvel comic story) in the shitty Marvel handbooks of all places?

Ha.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

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Wasn't Herc. drunk off his @ss when he said that? And didn't he get laughed at also?

He always laughed back then. He was constantly written as a happy go lucky guy. Unlike much today.

He wasent drunk, no. Of course he is boasting to an extent where he makes it seem like every labour was easy, when it wasent. But there is nothing telling that they never took place.

All his myths are canon. It's like how Thor is always saying how he killed thousands of Frost Giants. We don't see it but we know it happened.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wasn't Herc. drunk off his @ss when he said that? And didn't he get laughed at also?
No.

He was laughed at after he said he easily threw Manhattan at Thor... I believe.

I ment the stuff like lifting the Earth and fighting Cerberus. The Manhattan stuff isn't a myth. It might be a boast. But even then no one said that Manhattan lifting didn't happen. He lifted the Earth so he could probably lift Manhattan.

I feel so great about what they are doing with Hercules at current. I was looking at a cover with some of the biggest players in the Marvel Universe Thing, Spider Man, Wolverine and who do I see other than Hercules. And they drew him very big wich says to me Hercules is one of the most important character in the Marvel Universe.

Does any one else think that Hercules has a pretty big chance of appearing in the Thor movie. Or maybe in any of the movies.

Incredible Hercules #120

Hercules vs Kly'bn (with an assist from snowbird)


So Kly'bn is what a gay god?