Animal Man vs Superman

Always thought Buddy had an absolutely insane amount of potential. I mean, the sheer variety of powers... But in my opinion we've only seen a bit of this, and like some other characters (The Silver Surfer) even reading just about everything they've ever starred in won't help you much.

Before we begin this, lets take into consideration his powers are scaled to his size. He can use the sonic blasts of a Pistol Shrimp, but it'll be powerful enough to knock out a room of tough men. Ants can dart around quickly, moving so and so many lengths of their body in a second. For Buddy, that translates to about 70 miles an hour. And the ever famous rhinoceros beetle can hold 850 times it's own weight on it's back... Which translates to a normal human being holding and walking around with 76 family sized cars on his back. And, taking on the durability and damage resistance of a cockroach he's taken multiple attacks from an all out absolutely insane Superman.

Also, he can make copies of himself like bacteria.

Animal man= OWNAGE.

Damn, he could kick Superman's ass. He can fly, right?

Of course he can fly.

Here's a list of weird shit he could do.

•Copying jellyfish could give him a venomous touch;
•Copying sponges could let him reform after being torn to bits;
•Copying octopi could let him get pounded flat and recover, or squeeze himself through tiny holes;
•Copying fireflies/squid could grant him light emission powers;
•Copying sharks/rays/platypuses/eels/whatever could grant him generation and perception of electrical fields;
•Copying dolphins or pigeons could grant him perception of magnetic fields;
•Copying bees and pit vipers could grant him IR and UV vision;
•Copying Pompeii worms (the ones around underwater volcanoes) could grant him resistance to heat;
•Copying antarctic cod or certain crickets could grant him resistance to subfreezing cold;
•Copying tardigrades could let him go dormant and survive heat, cold, radiation, dehydration, asphyxiation, for hundreds of years;
•Copying Japanese honeybees could let him increase his body temperature at will;
•Copying painted turtles could grant him immortality (in the not aging sense);
•Copying a dog or wolf could grant him Batgirl-like movement-reading abilities;
•Copying a pinyon jay could grant him superhuman spatial memory;
•Copying a dolphin could grant him superhuman auditory memory and superfast sound-analysis abilities;
•Copying a sperm whale could let him project focused sonic beams;
•Copying spitting cobras or bombardier beetles or cone shells could lead to--well, I'm not exactly sure what, since he doesn't usually change physically when he copies an animal, but somehow he'd be kicking peoples' asses from a distance. Although in a fairly gross fashion.

seeing as how not a single animal on this planet could inflict the slightest damage to superman, animal man loses...REAL BAD

after a brief fight, Superman puts animal man on a leash and makes him into his female dog

Animal man sounds kinda corny but seems like an interesting character, unfortunately interesting characters don't translate to being a good fighter

Originally posted by masterbruce
seeing as how not a single animal on this planet could inflict the slightest damage to superman, animal man loses...REAL BAD

after a brief fight, Superman puts animal man on a leash and makes him into his female dog

Animal man sounds kinda corny but seems like an interesting character, unfortunately interesting characters don't translate to being a good fighter

Dude, his powers are porpotionate...if he copies fleas, he can jump miles. Ants, he can throw trucks with one finger...you get it...

Originally posted by long pig
Of course he can fly.

Here's a list of weird shit he could do.

•Copying jellyfish could give him a venomous touch;
•Copying sponges could let him reform after being torn to bits;
•Copying octopi could let him get pounded flat and recover, or squeeze himself through tiny holes;
•Copying fireflies/squid could grant him light emission powers;
•Copying sharks/rays/platypuses/eels/whatever could grant him generation and perception of electrical fields;
•Copying dolphins or pigeons could grant him perception of magnetic fields;
•Copying bees and pit vipers could grant him IR and UV vision;
•Copying Pompeii worms (the ones around underwater volcanoes) could grant him resistance to heat;
•Copying antarctic cod or certain crickets could grant him resistance to subfreezing cold;
•Copying tardigrades could let him go dormant and survive heat, cold, radiation, dehydration, asphyxiation, for hundreds of years;
•Copying Japanese honeybees could let him increase his body temperature at will;
•Copying painted turtles could grant him immortality (in the not aging sense);
•Copying a dog or wolf could grant him Batgirl-like movement-reading abilities;
•Copying a pinyon jay could grant him superhuman spatial memory;
•Copying a dolphin could grant him superhuman auditory memory and superfast sound-analysis abilities;
•Copying a sperm whale could let him project focused sonic beams;
•Copying spitting cobras or bombardier beetles or cone shells could lead to--well, I'm not exactly sure what, since he doesn't usually change physically when he copies an animal, but somehow he'd be kicking peoples' asses from a distance. Although in a fairly gross fashion.

See?!

He should copy a frog for it's tongue

His only limit is he needs to conceptualize them for it to work.

For instance, he can have the strength of an elephant--or the proportionate strength of an ant. And either way he gets super-strength. So if he just copies, say, the strength-to-tenth-power-of-body-mass ratio of an ant, boom--he's as strong as Superman. Ditto for speed. He could copy the proportionate strike speed of a mantis shrimp and throw punches at hundreds of mph...or he could copy the proportionate strike acceleration and throw punches at tens of thousands of mph. It's all in the description of the attribute.

hmmm I still don't see anything he can absorb to really do anything to superman

and resistance of a cockroach?!! cockroaches are freaking patheticly weak...

animal man is a joke to superman....superman will refuse to fight him in order to keep his dignity

at best, animal becomes kinda like Rhino, strong and powerful but still no match for supes

Actually.....he already beat Superman in his own comic....but lets not talk about that. 😛

A cockroach's durability x10 is on par with superman's durability.

At best, Animal man can become proportionately as strong as a rhino beetle x100 which would put him in the millions of ton range.

He should copy the power of a electric eel imagine the electric output he would have.

a cockroach's durability is not that strong

any bug bigger than the cockroach can kill it

cockroach's survival ability is being confused for its durability

cockroaches are famed because they've survived so many millions of years, this is mostly due to their fast reproduction rates and the fact that they eat almost anything, and not because they are especially resistant to harm

A flea's penis is roughly 2/3rds the length of its body.

That would have to be useful......

or Rhizocephalans! (Shell-less barnacles which parasitize crabs) The power to change targets' sex at will!

Remember, he doesn't need to be in proximity of the animal to use it.

When he's consciously tuned into the "planetary morphic field," or the "template," or the "Red," or whatever plot is fueling his powers today, he simply reaches in and selects whatever animal he needs.

The guy is nearly God-like.

When he and Superman fought the first time, he used the cockroaches durability to take Superman's punches.

So......😛

how would a rhino beetle put him in the million ton range?

assume he lifts 500 pounds

multiply by 100, that's 50,000 lbs or 25 tons

multiply by 1000, thats 250 tons

multipy by 10000, thats 2500 tons

thats nowhere near a million tons

A rhino bettle lifts around 850 times it's own weight, so 850 x 10 tons x 100=.....I dunno but a lot.

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Math sucks.

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No i think what he means is combining something like a elephants base Strength multiplied by the rhino beetles abilities THEN multiplied by an ants....or something along those lines

He can take any animal's power that has lived or or still lives in the Earth. Because of his connection.

Since Superman is a mammal, therefore an animal, and is connected to the Red, WHAT stops him from taking his powers, too? 😱

850 x 200 x 100 (what do these numbers mean?)

for the sake of the argument, that comes out to 8500 tons which is pretty impressive

but superman lifts over 100,000 tons so superman will certainly outmatch animal man in power

What he means actually is even though the beetle's ability to lift 850 times is multiplied by his size. Meaning that 850 times becomes more because it it is times the fact his body 200 times bigger.