Which was a better movie: The Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith

Started by Sith Master X22 pages

Every Star Wars movie is up there. Overall, my favorite would have to be ROTS.

I'll need about 5 years to analyse every film and then rate them. Bearing in mind I didn't like TESB when it first came out. The bottom line is that all 6 films contain at least one scene which makes you thik "Wow! that! blew! me! away!". I could happily sit and watch either of the 6 with no preference over any of them.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I like "Sith" better. I dont see what the big deal is with "ESB"

In my opinoin, i liked "a new hope" way better than "ESB".

And personally, "Return of the Jedi" is my favorite out of the classics.

Not to say "ESB" sucks. I just dont see what all the hoopla's about.

I have to agree. I guess I just prefer the darker episodes. Didn't help that Yoda was seriously getting on my NERVES in ESB.

Before ROTS, ROTJ was my favorite, but now since seeing the downfall, it makes watching the redemption that much more emotional and powerful.

ESB was good, and all....but I think it is my least favorite of the OT.

ROTJ and ROTS are also the only two that really moved me. ROTS is my favorite of the series mainly because it really got to me. I really felt for what Anakin was going through. I love how they made Vader less of a pure evil character into a tragic one.

Now I know I will probably tick off a few people on here, but also thanks to the prequels, I have a better experience with OT...I may be hearing James Earl Jones, but my minds sees Hayden under all that black wickedness... Humanizes Vader a bit more.

well my opinion of Vader has definatley changed. I go back to the OT and i actually feel sorry for him lol😛 is that good or bad?😕

That's good. Then you've understood what Lucas was trying to show.

to turn him from Cinema's greatest ever villain into a tortured soul? 😛

Yeah, it gives the character more depth. He's not a good guy pretending to be bad or anything, but you can see there's more to him then just being evil. I think some people mistake Vader for being the ultimate bad guy, when most of it was the Emperor's doing.

ESB has better scipting but ROTS has more fighting...

Im like America during election time... mostly undecided

True, very true✅ evil always comes - at some point, from good (or atleast it should do😛) makes it TONS more emotional😉

i mean, Luke, Leia and Han all develope imensely as characters through the OT, and i think in terms of 'character development' in the PT - Vader comes out ontop✅

Originally posted by Stunrun
True, very true✅ evil always comes - at some point, from good (or atleast it should do😛) makes it TONS more emotional😉

i mean, Luke, Leia and Han all develope imensely as characters through the OT, and i think in terms of 'character development' in the PT - Vader comes out ontop✅

Vader comes out on top.....Ooooh oooooh wicked pervert demons be gone! LOL

Well, Vader/Ani may be a tortured soul.....but still that best bad ass bad guy in movie history. Who doesn't get chills when hearing that OOOOOBER OOOOOBER....lol

Good and bad chills respectively... 😈 😉

Originally posted by Stunrun
True, very true✅ evil always comes - at some point, from good (or atleast it should do😛) makes it TONS more emotional😉

i mean, Luke, Leia and Han all develope imensely as characters through the OT, and i think in terms of 'character development' in the PT - Vader comes out ontop✅

I find the irony of it all amusing. The Jedi should not fear or be attatched.

But it was those two things Anakin had an overabundance of that helped him fulfill the prophecy. His love for Padme and fear of losing her turned him to the darkside. His love for Luke and fear of his death brought him back. Something it was thought could not be done.

almost a tie...esb is the better film overall (smooth, flawlessly paced, 100% believable acting, constantly maintained mood, no "crap bits" that i can think of etc), rots has more mindblowingly perfect individual scenes, but is lumpy and slightly (i said slightly) flawed in places...but, well, like i said, esb is the better film overall, so i guess that's my answer...

(and yeah, i didn't understand why they couldn't just stand on the fricken' ground and duel, without all the dancing on robots heads crap...that annoyed me as well)

starwars What makes ESB better is the romance between Han and Leia you can actually feel the romace between them that they were meant to be together and in love, but I coulden't see that with between anakin and padme, well only when padme tells anakin she is pregnant with his kid but apart from that their is no chemistry between them all.

lol ESB duh

Originally posted by amity75
I'll need about 5 years to analyse every film and then rate them. Bearing in mind I didn't like TESB when it first came out.

Ya, you should tell that to Roger Ebert. He actually gave Thumbs Down to The Empire Strikes Back in 1980 on the Sneak Previews show. I could not believe he did that, but he did.

Today of course he loves TESB. So even major film critics change their minds.

I prefer "Star Wars" (ANH, Ep 4) to either. There was nothing like seeing it again and again in the movie theater. The snappy dialogue is perfect. The universe we were opened up to is incredible. When that big spaceship came over our heads in the first few moments, wow. And the cantina scene, wonderful.

In fact, where were the monsters in "Sith"? Star Wars movies are supposed to be filled with monsters, but the only big alien was the Boga and Kenobi actually rode that like a friendly horse! I mean we've had the Banthas, the space slug, the Rancor & Sarlacc, the Opee sea killer & friends, the 3 arena monsters. I think the lack of a good monster is a serious flaw of "Sith."

But comparing ESB to ROTS, I don't know, they're telling similar but different stories. Empire does have flaws, the writing at times is has hackneyed as any SW movie. (Remember, they didn't "write" the "I know" line, Ford just improvised that!) And while that line is infamous in SW circles, it wouldn't make the top 10 movie lines of all time.

It's a tie for me.

ROTJ is the best!

starwars Your right their did not appear to many monsters in it apart from the boga, but maybe their was no need for their to be any it.

Now i saw Rots ROTj's even better