Antichrist = Evil?

Started by finti4 pages

are just another people who has been pushed away from God by jury.
to be honest it happen way before I even heard of this dude, yet his religious attitude is what I despise in so called christians and it makes me distance my self further from this belief . So in an indirectly way you are correct
The majority, great great great majority, of christians are not like this though

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are not the Antichrist, the Antichrist should be someone who is very religious and Christan.

Ironic isn' t it? The idea that the Antichrist will be an apostate priest or christian secular ruler, perhaps a pope or other high leader of the christian church, or a pretender to the papacy appeared early in the history of the christian church.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are not the Antichrist, the Antichrist should be someone who is very religious and Christan.
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Originally posted by finti
jury then 😂 😆
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I feel sorry for jury. Christans are supposed to bring people to God, well, you my friend, are just another people who has been pushed away from God by jury.
Actually, Christians supposed to bring people back to the TRUE God. Not the one you think you've known. Maybe, you're thinking about the Catholic God. 😂 Pitiful. Well, it's not me who pushed him away from God. It was God Himself.

Originally posted by finti
to be honest it happen way before I even heard of this dude, yet his religious attitude is what I despise in so called christians and it makes me distance my self further from this belief . So in an indirectly way you are correct
The majority, great great great majority, of christians are not like this though
Because you didn't know what the TRUE Christians were. You didn't know what the TRUE Christ was. You were all oriented to the so-called Christians who developed from the second century.

You guys still have a lot of things to be learned. Yet, these things can be learned only if it's too late for you...

... as it was in days of Noah.

Originally posted by Storm
Ironic isn' t it? The idea that the Antichrist will be an apostate priest or christian secular ruler, perhaps a pope or other high leader of the christian church, or a pretender to the papacy appeared early in the history of the christian church.

Actually, the Bible made some descriptions of this Antichrist.

It says there: that this lawlessness man will sit on a highest throne like God. He will proclaim Himself as God. And He will secretly introduce evil doctrines into the church. And He will deny the Sovereign Lord.

The apostles also prophesied that this man - the false prophet - will come from among them [Yes, from Christ's followers indeed]. This will happen the time the apostles of Christ will die.

This lawlessness man is the symbol of the great apostacy of the first century church of Christ.

This prophecy was proclaimed and was fulfilled.

Well many say the Antichrist must be of some Jewish or middle eastern back ground also to be able to bring all things together...Some say Prince Charles since I think he holds a title Prince of Jerusalem or something like that..It's too early to think now.,.some think it's Butros Butros Gali (sp?)

But it must be someone who also exhibits this:

Here are the 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit listed one right after the other in a bullet point format:

Love
Joy
Peace
Long suffering
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control
Now here is the specific verse from Scripture where these 9 fruits are coming from:

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, Long suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control." (Galatians 5:22)
Before I get into the appropriate commentary on what each of these fruits are all about, note the following:

The word "Spirit" is with a capital "S" - which means that these 9 fruits are coming directly from the Holy Spirit - not from us.

What this means is that God's love, God's peace, God's joy and God's goodness can be started to be transmitted up into your personality. These are His attributes and His personality qualities that will start to flow and mesh into the core of your personality. Think about the ramifications of this - that God the Father Himself is allowing us to share in a part of His divine nature by allowing His Holy Spirit to transmit and impart these nine qualities right up into our soul and personality!
That is why God the Father is specifically telling us in this verse that these 9 fruits are coming directly from the Holy Spirit - so that we can fully appreciate the magnitude of such an experience.

Now Jury....I know many nonchristians that exhibit these qualities...It says above that this can ONLY come from the Holy Spirit...So, it would seem that the Holy Spirit is upon those who don't have a particular faith also...agreed?

Because you didn't know what the TRUE Christians were. You didn't know what the TRUE Christ was. You were all oriented to the so-called Christians who developed from the second century.
unlike you we were humble before our christ.
You aint no christian, you are just one poor ole condemning sod trying to portray a christian and a sorry excuse for a so called christian as well

You guys still have a lot of things to be learned. Yet, these things can be learned only if it's too late for you...
allready know what I require to know

I thought Prince Charle's title was "Prince of Wales"............come to think of it, I don't believe Jerusalem is part of the United Kingdom.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I thought Prince Charle's title was "Prince of Wales"............come to think of it, I don't believe Jerusalem is part of the United Kingdom.

I've read that it is some ancient title...one that goes back a long ways..

Prince Charles biographer, Anthony Holden, goes further and explains that Prince Charles “descends over and over again from Charlemagne and Frederick Barbarossa and all the great dynasties, Hapsburg and Hohenstaufen, Guleph and Hohenzollern, Bavaria, and Saxony, Hesse and Baden ... in Italy, his forefathers include the Dukes of Savoy and the Emperor Frederick II ... and the medieval Kings of Sicily, as also the Orsini of Rome (Pope Nicholas III was his ancestral uncle)... in Spain, they include Ferdinand and Isabella ... and thus El Cid himself. The Prince’s Anglo-Saxon and Danish royal forefathers sprang from Dark Age kings who incarnated the storm-spirit Woden (after whom Wednesday is named), and among his pagan Celtic royal forefathers were King Niall of the Nine Hostages and the Dynamic Iron Age sacral kings of Tara, the great sanctuary of ancient Ireland. Through the Lusignan crusader kings of Cyprus, titular kings of Jerusalem, Prince Charles descends a millennium further back from king Tiridates the Great, the first Christian monarch of all (under whom Armenia was converted in AD 314, before even Rome itself), and thus from the divine Parthian Imperial House of Arsaces (247 BC), which reigned over Persia and Babylonia and was in its time the mightiest dynasty in the Ancient World.” (12)

Just pulled this up, but maybe you can google it.

"You guys still have a lot of things to be learned. Yet, these things can be learned only if it's too late for you..."
That's what i said...

Originally posted by Chibi Boy
"You guys still have a lot of things to be learned. Yet, these things can be learned only if it's too late for you..."
That's what i said...

Chibi Boy
How many collage degrees do you have?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Chibi Boy
How many collage degrees do you have?

Certainly no sufficient amount to afford him such a patronizing attitude.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Certainly no sufficient amount to afford him such a patronizing attitude.

Yes, also, it is arrogance that is behind all of this. A humble person with differing ideas would would still say what he/she thinks, but would be ever mindful of the views of others. Arrogance is not allowed in heaven.

It was a joke.

Originally posted by Chibi Boy
It was a joke.

What was a joke? I missed it if there was one.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well many say the Antichrist must be of some Jewish or middle eastern back ground also to be able to bring all things together...Some say Prince Charles since I think he holds a title Prince of Jerusalem or something like that..It's too early to think now.,.some think it's Butros Butros Gali (sp?)

But it must be someone who also exhibits this:

Here are the 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit listed one right after the other in a bullet point format:

Love
Joy
Peace
Long suffering
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control
Now here is the specific verse from Scripture where these 9 fruits are coming from:

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, Long suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control." (Galatians 5:22)
Before I get into the appropriate commentary on what each of these fruits are all about, note the following:

[B]The word "Spirit" is with a capital "S" - which means that these 9 fruits are coming directly from the Holy Spirit - not from us.

What this means is that God's love, God's peace, God's joy and God's goodness can be started to be transmitted up into your personality. These are His attributes and His personality qualities that will start to flow and mesh into the core of your personality. Think about the ramifications of this - that God the Father Himself is allowing us to share in a part of His divine nature by allowing His Holy Spirit to transmit and impart these nine qualities right up into our soul and personality!
That is why God the Father is specifically telling us in this verse that these 9 fruits are coming directly from the Holy Spirit - so that we can fully appreciate the magnitude of such an experience.

Now Jury....I know many nonchristians that exhibit these qualities...It says above that this can ONLY come from the Holy Spirit...So, it would seem that the Holy Spirit is upon those who don't have a particular faith also...agreed? [/B]

Jesus said: "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord' and do not follow what I said?"

Okay, that is for Christians. That is for God's chosen ones. The Holy Spirit comes from God. And this Spirit is intended ONLY for His chosen ones OR acknowledged ones.

Even a man is the most lovable or whatever value he has in this world yet do not acknowledge, believe and obey Christ, he does not acknowledge God. And he doesn't have the Spirit that comes from God.

Jesus also said: "Those who believe in me, if you obey my teachings, you truly are my people."

These people belongs to one "flock". Metaphorically, they are called "sheep" of that one "flock".

These are the only ones who truly hear the Christ's voice.

"My sheep hear my voice"

These "sheep" are Christ's people.

Christ's people are also God's people.

They are the ones who are filled with the Holy Spirit that comes from God.

These "sheep" are Christ's people.
some certainly acts like them though

Originally posted by Jury
Jesus said: "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord' and do not follow what I said?"

Okay, that is for Christians. That is for God's chosen ones. The Holy Spirit comes from God. And this Spirit is intended ONLY for His chosen ones OR acknowledged ones.

Even a man is the most lovable or whatever value he has in this world yet do not acknowledge, believe and obey Christ, he does not acknowledge God. And he doesn't have the Spirit that comes from God.

Jesus also said: "Those who believe in me, if you obey my teachings, you truly are my people."

These people belongs to one "flock". Metaphorically, they are called "sheep" of that one "flock".

These are the only ones who truly hear the Christ's voice.

"My sheep hear my voice"

These "sheep" are Christ's people.

Christ's people are also God's people.

They are the ones who are filled with the Holy Spirit that comes from God.

Like I said, I know people who have these fruits of the Spirit so, who is giving it to them?????...they are not Christians...If the Holy Spirit is the only one that can give them, then................what?

Like I said, I know people who have these fruits of the Spirit so, who is giving it to them?????...they are not Christians...If the Holy Spirit is the only one that can give them, then................what?

just shows that jury doesnt know what the hell he is talking about

Actually the "Holy Spirit" is not only one. That Spirit is Holy because it comes from God. Whatever that Spirit have, it comes from God. These Spirits also serve as Messengers of God. These Holy Spirits can also be Christ's Messengers. Spirits for God's own people.