Originally posted by Xplosive
You know Juntai that no one can defy The Presence. Why to fight The Presence=God, that is only stupid thign, why to go aganst someone when there is no way of defeating him. Spectre can literally ne joke compared to The Presence, and The Presence can make him antz if it choses so.
Only being that was shown to be almighty was Thanos with HOTU. He would make Phoenix Force, Parallax, Spectre jokes, he would turn them into something like he did to Pharaoh. He would turn Spectre and Parallax into insect and he would turn PF into parrot (since parrot is most intelligent bird). But TOAA>Thanos with HOTU. Only an example that no one can defy God.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Only being that was shown to be almighty was Thanos with HOTU. He would make Phoenix Force, Parallax, Spectre jokes, he would turn them into something like he did to Pharaoh. He would turn Spectre and Parallax into insect and he would turn PF into parrot (since parrot is most intelligent bird). But TOAA>Thanos with HOTU. Only an example that no one can defy God.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Defying God doesnt mean you're comparable in power to God.Spectre has defied God before and one of the brothers have been sent to deal with him.
Originally posted by Juntai
And that didn't show anything about what I asked, though it was a cool picture of holding a mini universe. It didn't show or explain her creating anything, just holding, what does it say . . a badly wounded orphan universe?
Its not my problem you're not a regular comic book reader. Everyone else knows what that picture was showing and probably also what comic book it was from. That is from New Xmen #154. Pick up a copy and be enlightened. As for the scan it shows exactly what you asked for. Take my advice and you'll find out for yourself.
Originally posted by Juntai
Where?
Show me words where it said she created or destroyed a univer or took on the Presence?
Parallax never took on the Presence nor did Spectre. Defying the Presence will does not equal that im afraid. When Spectre has defied Prsence in the past Michael has been sent to sort him out. What you fail to understand is that Phoenix in Marvel is the primal force of creation responsible for the creation of everything. It did what Lucifer and Michael did in DC. Can Parallax or Spectre match up to those two in DC?
Spectre took over hell when Azmodel was in the Spectre Force.
He then shut off the power of the quintessence...
Shazam, highfather, Ganthet, Zues, etc.
Kronos defeated Galactus with ease, and his power is nothing to Ganthet, who is the embodiment of the rest of the entire race of Guardians [which is what they both are.]
And Ganthet ran and hid from Hal.
Spectre is the only being to ever make it beyond The wall at the edge of the univer and come back from it.
Hal erased all time, even the hand that created it.
Spectre IS the ALLMIGHTY when judging a soul. He is a piece of The Presence itself known as the LOGOZ.
Originally posted by Juntai
What I'm explaining to you is that the Spectre is an aspect of God. The only time The Presence will was ever enacted his will over the Spectre, is when he comes to the mortal plane without a mortal soul as a host. And even that apperently doesn't stop Spectre from doing it. And the Spectre cannot be harmed or defeated without the use of the Spear of Destiny. The only weapon that can kill any celestial.
You basically sounded like God cannot defeat Spectre without Spear of Destiny.
The Presence can make Spectre affraid.
Originally posted by Juntai
Spectre took over hell when Azmodel was in the Spectre Force.
He then shut off the power of the quintessence...
Shazam, highfather, Ganthet, Zues, etc.
Kronos defeated Galactus with ease, and his power is nothing to Ganthet, who is the embodiment of the rest of the entire race of Guardians [which is what they both are.]
And Ganthet ran and hid from Hal.
Spectre is the only being to ever make it beyond The wall at the edge of the univer and come back from it.
Hal erased all time, even the hand that created it.
Spectre IS the ALLMIGHTY when judging a soul. He is a piece of The Presence itself known as the LOGOZ.
In Marvel Phoenixes power is second only to T.O.A.A. Phoenix is beyond Parallax without a doubt so theres no need to carry on this thread. You've now tried to turn this into a Spectre debate seeing that supporting Parallax was a lost cause. If you want to argue about Spectre take five mins to find the appropriate thread and bump it up.