Originally posted by snoopdogg
Read the scan closely. He teaching them "tactics" to deal with Class 100 foes. None of those guys are Class 100 and neither is Ben. But Ben knows how to handle them and he's gonna show those kids.
He has class 100 feats that makes him class100. Officialy its class85 but thats just a lower form of class 100 really.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Read the scan closely. He teaching them "tactics" to deal with Class 100 foes. None of those guys are Class 100 and neither is Ben. But Ben knows how to handle them and he's gonna show those kids.
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If they're only looking to teach them just the "tactics" to use against a CL100 opponent... And not trying to show them what it "feels" like to go up against a CL100 opponent... Why not use someone in their own weight class (CL1-CL20) that's fought CL100's instead of a complete "BRICK" (Pun not really...really intended, kind of though) that is nothing like any of the trainees and who out muscles them all by (per your version of Ben) 60-80+ tons.
Sorry it doesn't make any sense to me... How Ben would deal with CL100 character is completely different than how a CL20 would have to handle one... Am I wrong...?
A CL20 isn't going to go toe to toe with a CL100 which is how Ben would do it... And does do it.
Why not bring in someone like Beast, Zemo, Ms. Marvel, Bishop, Samson...Etc.
Just to name a few that are all 60-80+ tons closer (With your version of Ben) in strength to these trainees than Ben is and they all would have to try and deal with a CL100 threat in manners much closer to the trainees needed manners of doing so... Than to go toe to toe like Ben does.
If you look at the page carefully Ben says "Anytime rookies" "Show me whatcha got". They all rush Ben and he lets them attack him and he let's them do their thing and then he tosses them around a bit... Vance asks Ben if he was "having fun"? Ben says "You kiddin' Vance? This's just like our old days in the Unlimited Class Wrestlin' Federation".
Vance thanks Ben for "going easy on them". And calls it a day.
Clearly showing that Ben was there to allow the trainees to latch on to a CL100 threat and see what it felt like to do so.
I truly think to look at it in any other way is as Mr. Spock would say "illogical".
Hence Ben is CL100.
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Originally posted by Tony Stark
😕If they're only looking to teach them just the "tactics" to use against a CL100 opponent... And not trying to show them what it "feels" like to go up against a CL100 opponent... Why not use someone in their own weight class (CL1-CL20) that's fought CL100's instead of a complete "BRICK" (Pun not really...really intended, kind of though) that is nothing like any of the trainees and who out muscles them all by (per your version of Ben) 60-80+ tons.
Sorry it doesn't make any sense to me... How Ben would deal with CL100 character is completely different than how a CL20 would have to handle one... Am I wrong...?A CL20 isn't going to go toe to toe with a CL100 which is how Ben would do it... And does do it.
Why not bring in someone like Beast, Zemo, Ms. Marvel, Bishop, Samson...Etc.
Just to name a few that are all 60-80+ tons closer (With your version of Ben) in strength to these trainees than Ben is and they all would have to try and deal with a CL100 threat in manners much closer to the trainees needed manners of doing so... Than to go toe to toe like Ben does.
If you look at the page carefully Ben says "Anytime rookies" "Show me whatcha got". They all rush Ben and he lets them attack him and he let's them do their thing and then he tosses them around a bit... Vance asks Ben if he was "having fun"? Ben says "You kiddin' Vance? This's just like our old days in the Unlimited Class Wrestlin' Federation".
Vance thanks Ben for "going easy on them". And calls it a day.
Clearly showing that Ben was there to allow the trainees to latch on to a CL100 threat and see what it felt like to do so.
I truly think to look at it in any other way is as Mr. Spock would say "illogical".
Hence Ben is CL100.
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smacked it. 👆
Originally posted by Tony Stark
😕If they're only looking to teach them just the "tactics" to use against a CL100 opponent... And not trying to show them what it "feels" like to go up against a CL100 opponent... Why not use someone in their own weight class (CL1-CL20) that's fought CL100's instead of a complete "BRICK" (Pun not really...really intended, kind of though) that is nothing like any of the trainees and who out muscles them all by (per your version of Ben) 60-80+ tons.
Sorry it doesn't make any sense to me... How Ben would deal with CL100 character is completely different than how a CL20 would have to handle one... Am I wrong...?A CL20 isn't going to go toe to toe with a CL100 which is how Ben would do it... And does do it.
Why not bring in someone like Beast, Zemo, Ms. Marvel, Bishop, Samson...Etc.
Just to name a few that are all 60-80+ tons closer (With your version of Ben) in strength to these trainees than Ben is and they all would have to try and deal with a CL100 threat in manners much closer to the trainees needed manners of doing so... Than to go toe to toe like Ben does.
If you look at the page carefully Ben says "Anytime rookies" "Show me whatcha got". They all rush Ben and he lets them attack him and he let's them do their thing and then he tosses them around a bit... Vance asks Ben if he was "having fun"? Ben says "You kiddin' Vance? This's just like our old days in the Unlimited Class Wrestlin' Federation".
Vance thanks Ben for "going easy on them". And calls it a day.
Clearly showing that Ben was there to allow the trainees to latch on to a CL100 threat and see what it felt like to do so.
I truly think to look at it in any other way is as Mr. Spock would say "illogical".
Hence Ben is CL100.
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Teaching someone how to make a dish better than a pizza does not make one an adept pizza chef.
Another view is that old people teach track stars all the time, that doesn't mean the teachers are as fast as the students.
Thing isn't class 100. That's part of his deal, according to snoopdogg.
Originally posted by snoopdoggIn this case, it would actually make them a pizza... ermm
Teaching someone how to make a dish better than a pizza does not make one an adept pizza chef.
Also, the people aren't actually racing the track stars.
Ben's teaching them how to deal with class 100s by making them fight him... it kind of says something...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
In this case, it would actually make them a pizza... ermmAlso, the people aren't actually racing the track stars.
Ben's teaching them how to deal with class 100s by making them fight him... it kind of says something...
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You are correct sir...
There is no other logical way to to think about it.
Sorry... 😖mart:
Ultimatum#1
Ult thing prevents a blue whale from crushing further into the baxter building :
blue whales typically weigh around 160-200 tons
Bumping this thread a bit.
It seems like the Thing isn't getting a lot of respect in the comics as of late, especially with name-worthy fights. All of the potentially interesting ones seem to be no-starters or not entirely serious.
The fight with Strong Guy was just a quick brawl (although one that Ben clearly seemed to win). He fought Hercules in Mighty Avengers 26 but it's pretty much just a ruse on Herc's part. Then in Hulk #19 he punches it out with the Rulk for a few panels but it turns out Rulk is both weakened and not even interested in fighting the Thing (and later on even mocks him, "I got beaten up by the Thing!"😉.
Supposedly the Thing will be one of the up-coming "Hulked out Heroes". While the whole premise doesn't seem all that hot, hopefully they'll at least give Ben a few good showings / feats in it......maybe even give him a permanent amp so he stops getting treated like a subpar brick (especially here in the forums 🙂 .
