Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
If only VH1 knew what Hip Hop was, because the following don't belong...47. Arrested Development
46. Eve
45. Heavy D
44. MC Hammer
39. Ja Rule
36. Master P
32. Cypress Hill
31. Naughty By Nature
30. Will Smith / DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince
29. Nelly
28. Busta Rhymes
26. Ice Cube
25. Snoop Dogg
23. DMX
21. OutKast
16. Ice T
14. P. Diddy
13. NWA
12. Wu-Tang Clan
9. Salt N Pepa
7. Dr. Dre
6. Eminem
4. Notorious BIG
3. Tupac ShakurI mean...Arrested Development, they had TWO POP SONGS!
Furthur evidence the general public has absolutely no idea what Hip Hop is, and what distinguishes it from rap. There is a difference, and I suggest everyone learns it. Shit..just call it what it is, VH1. "The Top 50 black artists that had some good songs we got jiggy to in college over the past 20 years or so".
You don't think Wu Tang and NWA should belong? 😕
Mainstream Hip Hop died when NWA broke, and it hasn't been back since. M2 will have "Sucka Free Sundays" and all these supposed "Hip Hop" artists, but never feature BEP, Common, The Roots, Mos Def, or any other prominant Hip Hop artist.
Wu Tang Clan, while creative, are just a bunch of guys with a gimmick and non-sensical, non-directional lyrics. Hip Hop has always been about having a message, or just waxing poetic & nostalgia.
Rap will NEVER have the soul that Hip Hop does.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
If only VH1 knew what Hip Hop was, because the following don't belong...47. Arrested Development
46. Eve
45. Heavy D
44. MC Hammer
39. Ja Rule
36. Master P
32. Cypress Hill
31. Naughty By Nature
30. Will Smith / DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince
29. Nelly
28. Busta Rhymes
26. Ice Cube
25. Snoop Dogg
23. DMX
21. OutKast
16. Ice T
14. P. Diddy
13. NWA
12. Wu-Tang Clan
9. Salt N Pepa
7. Dr. Dre
6. Eminem
4. Notorious BIG
3. Tupac ShakurI mean...Arrested Development, they had TWO POP SONGS!
Furthur evidence the general public has absolutely no idea what Hip Hop is, and what distinguishes it from rap. There is a difference, and I suggest everyone learns it. Shit..just call it what it is, VH1. "The Top 50 black artists that had some good songs we got jiggy to in college over the past 20 years or so".
Off that list i would say Ice T, Ice Cube, Wu-Tang, Cypress Hill and Arrested Development DO deserve to be on the list. They have all had strong messages in their songs just not as consistently as PE and BDP. Ice T's "escape the killing fields", Ice Cube's "alive on arrival" are examples of this. Arrested Development were all about the message, it may have been a flower power message but that was just their style.
As for VH1's list, how are you gonna put Salt n Pepper above KRS 1? 😠
Of course Ice Cube belongs 😕 If NWA belong, then Cube belongs, seeing as they made their only classic album largely thanks to his input, and then he went off and made two albums that were as good as SOC, and one which was better.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Wu Tang Clan, while creative, are just a bunch of guys with a gimmick and non-sensical, non-directional lyrics.
Non-directional yes, but non-sensical, very rarely. True they use a whole lot of personal slang and pretty obscure pop-culture references, but on the whole most of their lyrics make sense, no more or less than most other hip-hop artists. And they're mostly battle raps anyway, so they're not really trying to put across a message, exceptions being songs like Tearz. Anyway, to me that's what makes them so great. We need a break from the preaching. And who in hip-hop makes more sense than GZA? Or has produced as much audio-gold as RZA? Or (was) as original and entertaining as Method Man? Or as tongue-twistingly powerful as Inspectah Deck? Wu own that list, and almost any other they may be on.