Darth Traya and Darth Sion vs. Darth Revan

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Originally posted by Darth_Janus
I was thinking along the same lines.

Cool, others giving the two a chance. . .

Originally posted by Fishy
Its a possibility, but I don't think Sion will last against Revan.

You say Sion will last long, but he won't regenerate his willpower will be broken by just seeing Revan. By just having him walk up the stairs towards Sion. If Revan is so good that he can cut up Sion before Kreia can really attack then Sion is screwed, and Kreia her attacks will not all work on somebody like Revan.

Also Kreia knows what her apprentice thinks, she has no idea how he fights. Not anymore he has learned a lot in years of war, wars that she was not a part of.

And to quote Master Kavar when seeing Kreia...

"I thought you died in the Mandalorian Wars..."

Hmm, Don't remember that, when did he say that?

When Kreia confronts the Jedi masters. Whether it's light or dark I don't recall.

Well it has to be light, Kreia never confronts Kavar on Dark...

That makes sense, unless you let thejedi masters live and then go dark.

kreia and sion beat revan. Kreia is with sion so he will not lose the will to die so the only way to kill him is advanced force powers which revan doesn't have

Revan doesn't have advanced Force powers. . . . ?

by that i mean destroying stars and force eating etc. I consider powers such as lightning good but advanced. I do not believe revan would be able to do anything to kill sion but i do not think sion is invincible, i just think it takes something truly spectacular to kill him

Hell no, first of all Sion dies because his will is broken y the Exile. Sion thinks Kreia loves Revan far more then the Exile and he would fall to Revan fast because he fears Revan. Second of all, Revan may not have the power of Ragnos or Exar Kun but he can do impossible things and he would destroy the force within Sion his body. Sion would not stand a chance.

Don't underestimate Revans force powers, he learned from all the great ancient sith of the past including from places like malachor (a planet of ancient sith knowledge/power) and korriban (where all the ancient sith were buried and left behind there teachings) AND he learned lightside techniques from the archives and some of the greatest masters of the order, his power and knowledge exceeded kreia who instakilled 12 sith assasins and could instakill the three most powerful jedi at the time. He would brake sion at whim then ahve an interesting fight in which he crushes kreia.

maybe but i doesnt say anywhere that revan learns anything like fishy said such as crushing the force within sions body so i will consider that he learns little more than what you see in KOTOR. I just dont think he knows anything advanced enough to kill sion, it depends if he discovers a way to beat sion and then maybe revan will win

That's not the point. . .

First off, Revan DOES know things that can defeat Sion. There's no plausible explanation about why he couldn't.

Secondly, the reason Sion would fall wouldn't be because of Revan's power, it could come to that, but no. It'd be because of the fear and emnity and envy he feels towards Revan. These emotions, they'd cloud his mind, tear it apart. He'd give in himself.

you are right in that he envys revan but sion is no coward and fears noone and so his envy will lead to him wanting to kill revan ( just like it made sion want to kill the exile ) Kreia will also be by sion and this will drive him to not give up so the only way for revan to kill sion will be physical and i dont think his abilities would help him in this case

Do you think Kreia taught Revan that move she used on the Masters? If she did, and Revan is more powerful than her in the force, couldnt he just kill them both the way she killed the three masters? Im jus saying, i have no idea if its true or not, or even possible, but it would be something to consider.

Have you played KOTOR II, jv?

ye i have why

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Hm. The questions are this:

1- How wise is Revan and capable compared to Traya?

2- How well does Kreia know her padawan?


In KOTOR 2 Kreia basically states that Revan regarded her VERY highly, thus, it isn't a far fetched idea to regard Revan as slightly in awe of her.

Originally posted by joeyvermont
maybe but i doesnt say anywhere that revan learns anything like fishy said such as crushing the force within sions body so i will consider that he learns little more than what you see in KOTOR. I just dont think he knows anything advanced enough to kill sion, it depends if he discovers a way to beat sion and then maybe revan will win

It says in kotor2 that revan regains all his memories from before he lost them which is two planets worth of sith knowledge (including the tombs of the greatest dark lords) , the jedi archives and teachings from the greatest jedi masters. One of these techniques is force crush which is pretty much crushing your enemy like an ant. As for beating sion Revan is extremely extremely intelligent and charismatic he would brake sion.