this is a joke right, the vong are just an alien species and they have nothing more to them whereas the ancient sith lords are strongest in terms of power of all force sensitives. an average sith lord could kill at least 50 vong at once and the more powerful ones, such as marko ragnos could wipe out an entire planet of them. Also nai foll are you stupid, luke never becomes anywhere near as good as ragnos, he doesnt get better than anakin skywalker and isn't even the best in NJO. Anakin Solo is. And illustrious what are you chatting about with effects and shit. Every force power has an effect but you are saying that the force power doesn't do anything to them but the effect does. in terms of lightning the same can be said about anyone, for example through your reasoning i could say that force powers such as lightning dont effect humans but the effect does such as the lightning striking the opponent. what you have been saying is bs and makes no sense and you are even stupider than lil krueger