I personally don't fear death, I actually find the thought of it somewhat fascinating and exciting, it's truly the final journey a person takes, do we go to heaven or hell? Do we get reincarnated? Do we return to the earth? Or does nothing at all happen?
Despite what people may say, no one knows for sure, and the possibilities are exciting.
That said, I'm not looking forward to death, I'm just not worried about it, I don't think about it, I'd suggest you do the same.
Originally posted by kmcdude
like real bad 🙁 Do you think it will hurt? try and close your eyes and think about the world with u not there........it is freaky 🙁 I am scared how i'm gunna die,when I'm gunna die,and what happens when I die 🙁
Everyone is ultimately scared of dying.
We do not comprehend the idea of dying because if we did, the quality of our existence will be, very low to non existent. Thats why, we have pushed this idea of dying in the back of our minds. We know we will ultimately die, but we chose to suppress that fact.
Being scared of dying is normal, it means you are trying to comprehend the idea of it - the only thing that will lead is depression.
i accept that you're making poor leaps in logic just to win your arguement.
there is a big difference between feeling fear when confronting the idea of your own death: "i wonder what will happen....i dont....thats kinda scarey. and " OMFG!!!!!!!111111 I'M GONNA DIE!!!!! I DONT WANNA DIE!!!! AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!"
you are trying to make it a black and white issue once again.
you already admitted that you find the "concept" to be scarey, which makes no sense. death is death.
Originally posted by PVS
i accept that you're making poor leaps in logic just to win your arguement.
And you were more than content to speak out of one side of your mouth and pop at me for making incorrect assumptions (which I didn't) only to DRASTICALLY base your whole arguement around assuming something about me.
Originally posted by PVS
there is a big difference between feeling fear when confronting the idea of your own death: "i wonder what will happen....i dont....thats kinda scarey. and " OMFG!!!!!!!111111 I'M GONNA DIE!!!!! I DONT WANNA DIE!!!! AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!"
you are trying to make it a black and white issue once again.
No, I'm not. Stop trying to tell me what I'm doing. It failed you last time and it'll fail you this time. It is a black and white issue with regards to "Do you or don't you fear death?" I agree with you in the sense that people will obviously say it but most likely have their views change if they are confronted by it. I'M saying that for ME, it's happened and it didn't change my views, if anything, it purged me of my fears.
I've confronted my own HIGHLY possible death and in the same moment, seen it happen infront of my face. I don't fear it. So if you're gonna retort with "You're a liar." So be it. Because that's all you can do.
Originally posted by PVS
you already admitted that you find the "concept" to be scarey, which makes no sense. death is death.
It's an imposing concept. Darkness is "scary" (no, e) but I don't fear the dark. The vastness of the ocean is scary, but I'm not afraid of swimming in the sea. Death is a scary CONCEPT, but I don't fear it.
Try again when you have something other than being bitter. Or, as you will, reply with "Nah, floored logic. Lies."
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And you were more than content to speak out of one side of your mouth and pop at me for making incorrect assumptions (which I didn't) only to DRASTICALLY base your whole arguement around assuming something about me.No, I'm not. Stop trying to tell me what I'm doing. It failed you last time and it'll fail you this time. It is a black and white issue with regards to "Do you or don't you fear death?" I agree with you in the sense that people will obviously say it but most likely have their views change if they are confronted by it. I'M saying that for ME, it's happened and it didn't change my views, if anything, it purged me of my fears.
I've confronted my own HIGHLY possible death and in the same moment, seen it happen infront of my face. I don't fear it. So if you're gonna retort with "You're a liar." So be it. Because that's all you can do.
It's an imposing concept. Darkness is "scary" (no, e) but I don't fear the dark. The vastness of the ocean is scary, but I'm not afraid of swimming in the sea. Death is a scary CONCEPT, but I don't fear it.
Try again when you have something other than being bitter. Or, as you will, reply with "Nah, floored logic. Lies."
-AC
quite long winded...but tell me...who are you trying to convince as you frantically lash out in your type? me or you?
"It is a black and white issue with regards to "Do you or don't you fear death?"
why? because you say so? horseshit
A) I'm not frantically lashing out, though I do sincerely enjoy your oh so poor attempt at a somehow insinuating that there's a subliminal element to my posts.
B) Nobody, because I'm not so insecure as to feel the need to convince someone else of my own beliefs. They're MINE for a reason. Couldn't care who agrees, who doesn't.
The only thing I have a problem with is people like you calling people who don't share your fears, lying sacks of shit. Get over yourself, as you once famously said to me. So if you're quite done dodging the fact that you've been uncovered as nothing more than a hypocrite yourself, are you done? Oh no of course you're not:
Originally posted by PVS
why? because you say so? horseshit
Relax man. No, that's not why. The reason why is because that's what we're discussing isn't it? Yes, dear boy.
We're discussing who fears death, who doesn't. Or in your case, anyone who doesn't is a lying "sack of shit". Why? Because you fear it? "Horse shit."
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) I'm not frantically lashing out, though I do sincerely enjoy your oh so poor attempt at a somehow insinuating that there's a subliminal element to my posts.B) Nobody, because I'm not so insecure as to feel the need to convince someone else of my own beliefs. They're MINE for a reason. Couldn't care who agrees, who doesn't.
The only thing I have a problem with is people like you calling people who don't share your fears, lying sacks of shit. Get over yourself, as you once famously said to me. So if you're quite done dodging the fact that you've been uncovered as nothing more than a hypocrite yourself, are you done? Oh no of course you're not:
Relax man. No, that's not why. The reason why is because that's what we're discussing isn't it? Yes, dear boy.
We're discussing who fears death, who doesn't. Or in your case, anyone who doesn't is a lying "sack of shit". Why? Because you fear it? "Horse shit."
-AC
i love how you define irony in every post. so i guess you are allowed to assume of me, but if its vice versa then its time for yet another literary tantrum.
oh yes, fine. because i feel a certain element of fear in uncertainty, that automatically means i'm insecure and stay locked in an underground bunker inside a plastic bubble, because i soooooooooooo fear death. thank you for painting yet another black and white image of your warped logic. everything must be one, or the other, right?
edit: btw, thats "lying sacks of horseshit"
if you're going to quote someone, please be accurate
and remember, there is a big difference between fear and terror.
fear of dying is a natural instinct. if people were simply fascinated and excited with the thought of dying, the suicide rate would be through the roof and mankind would be extinct. we are programmed to want to live as long as possible, and avoid dying at all costs. self preservation is partly motivated by fear of dying. not terror. fear.
Originally posted by PVS
i love how you define irony in every post. so i guess you are allowed to assume of me, but if its vice versa then its time for yet another literary tantrum.
No not at all. The only time I made an assumption of you was when I followed it with the line "So, like you..." which you oh so conveniently miss out. Why are you trying to put me on the back foot? You kicked this off by accusing me of assuming (when they were questions) and the based your whole argument on a personal assumption no less.
Originally posted by PVS
oh yes, fine. because i feel a certain element of fear in uncertainty, that automatically means i'm insecure and stay locked in an underground bunker inside a plastic bubble, because i soooooooooooo fear death. thank you for painting yet another black and white image of your warped logic. everything must be one, or the other, right?
You're the one saying that it's all black and white, one or the other. I'm not. You are. I don't give off that impression with regards to this issue and anyone who reads my posts can see that, you are the one making those claims. It's all you saying that.
You fear uncertainty, fine. Let's get down to what matters here because I fear you're baffling your poor self: Death and fearing it or not.
You claimed that anyone who claims no fear of death is a lying "sack of shit." Bit harsh, but lets go on. Your reasoning behind that? Because you believe that distance and the chances of our experiencing death are far off, so we immediately dismiss it, right? Yes, because you said so. So then when I claim to not fear it, you immediately assume that my "no fear ego" would fade should I ever be confronted unexpetedly by death or the possibility thereof, right? Yes, because you said so. But wait, that was an assumption, majorly, wasn't it? Because little did you know that I felt the way I do before my near death experience (and also seeing it happen), and I still feel the same after it.
One wouldn't be wrong to assume that your rationale is now completely in the shitter would they? Because I am living proof that your whole "anyone who says they don't fear death are lying sacks of shit" theory is wrong. You are making leaps of correlation when you say that viewing something as a scary or imposing concept is the same as fearing it. As I said before, I find the sea to be a scary concept. The size of a blue whale is scary. I don't fear either of them. So let me run that by you again: Death, to me, is a scary concept. I don't fear it and it's not for reasons that you so rabidly believe.
Before calling me Mr Ego, dodging my reply by calling it long winded (despite it being civilised and completely on topic, lest we forget accurate), think about what you've said and how much of a hypocrite you are, then maybe we can discuss further once you've accepted that the box you live in is not the world.
Originally posted by PVS
edit: btw, thats "lying sacks of horseshit"
if you're going to quote someone, please be accurate
Sad that the only time you gain the upper hand is when correcting me on a childish comment you made. Haha, pfft.
Originally posted by PVS
and remember, there is a big difference between fear and terror.
...and remember, there's a big difference between finding something scary, and fearing that. Picking up the breadcrumbs, Hanzel? Or have you chewed on your candy house to the point of bloating yourself on your own bs?
Originally posted by PVS
fear of dying is a natural instinct. if people were simply fascinated and excited with the thought of dying, the suicide rate would be through the roof and mankind would be extinct. we are programmed to want to live as long as possible, and avoid dying at all costs. self preservation is partly motivated by fear of dying. not terror. fear.
I don't go in the street looking to die, but death (or near death) has stared me in the face. I didn't fear it before, I don't fear it now. Accept that or don't, not my problem.
-AC
AC just needs to hurl insults and make blind assumptions. thats his way and i cant take it personally, since he does the same to everyone
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri...I fear you're baffling your poor self....
...One wouldn't be wrong to assume that your rationale is now completely in the shitter would they?...
...think about what you've said and how much of a hypocrite you are, then maybe we can discuss further once you've accepted that the box you live in is not the world....
...Sad that the only time you gain the upper hand is when correcting me on a childish comment you made. Haha, pfft.....
...and remember, there's a big difference between finding something scary, and fearing that. Picking up the breadcrumbs, Hanzel? Or have you chewed on your candy house to the point of bloating yourself on your own bs?
-AC
civil indeed. and please dont bother quoting me back, since i never claimed to be civil or 'above it all'. i just needed to call you on yet another inaccuracy in your infinately flowery self-appraisal.
and thats all i'll say on this. have your last word then....
Seeing as I haven't, I have no choice but to wonder where the hell you're getting this from and why you're so bitter considering that I've said I'm not attacking you or making it personal.
It's a sad day when it's the day that people realise they can't nail me, so they make shit up in the midst of accusing others of what they are guilty of doing. You're accusing me of assumption yet it's from your own misinterpretation and blind assumption that this normal discussion (because that's all it is) started. I expected better of you, PVS.
-AC