Dooku/Sion VS Sidious/Malak

Originally posted by Fishy
Might be, but all logic goes against it. There is no reason to assume that Sion could beat Malak, his control over the force is good but so was Malaks control, his lightsaber skills are probably good, but those of Malak were great and seen as such by all that could know and many that could not.

Dooku has an even slimmer chance of defeating Malak, his lightsaber skills are good but he has not seen as much war. Malak has probably fought lightsaber masters before and he always came out victorious. Dooku his style is great and he mastered it, and if he would have been around in Malak his time he could have been the stuff of legends but he simply isn't good enough.

Sion held himself together with the force. If you can do that, how are you not great in the force? And at the same time he could use Force powers.

And Malak isn't a godly persuasionist. And who says every single person out there can talk Sion into defeat? You cannot say that because not everyone will be able to do it.

and the Dooku/Sidious against each other?

Well, if Sidious has stronger force, how come when Sidious does Force lightning, Mace sat there for a while before being launched?

When Dooku did Force Lightning on AOTC to Anakin, he right away flew across the room into a wall. Dooku didn't even have to charge up. And how far would Anakin have gone if there was no wall?

And we have confirmed that Dooku is the better Swordsman so....

Dooku/Sion own this match.

Hmm dude..

Mace and AOTC Anakin, there is a big difference. Also Dooku was still fresh Sidious just had a shit load of lightning going into his ass, of course he's going to feel tired or weakened.

And no you are right not everybody can talk Sion into defeat, but there are other ways to defeat him perhaps not kill him, but he can still be knocked out or something. Malak could take him down and keep him there.

Dooku takes Sidious while Sion wipes Malaks flipping but
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Sion vs Sidious = Sion.
Sion vs Malak= Sion.
Dooku vs Sidious = Sidious.
Dooku vs Malak = Malak.

Sidious would take Sion...Dun Moch anyone? He's a master at breaking peoples' spirits and wills...and Dooku dies first.

And Dooku hasn't seen much war? He's only been fighting for....well, most his life, he destroyed the Mandalorians, defeated Durge, the Clone Wars, among many others.

I think Sidious might be able to talk Sion out of it... I mean, that man is a damn good manipulator.

Then Dooku beats Malak, IMO Sidious mops up.

Actually, it'd be pretty amusing to see Malak and dooku throwing down in the background as Sidious chats Sion up

Coming to think about it does Sidious know anything like Morichio because I'm pretty sure that would affect Sion.

Sion could likely take Sidious while Dooku and Malak fight. Malak beats Dooku, then Sion fights Malak and wins. So I go Dooku/Sion. Hell, it'd be close, though.

Yeah, right. A bit of smooth talking, Morichro and Dun Moch and the fight ends

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
Sion vs Sidious = Sion.
Sion vs Malak= Sion.
Dooku vs Sidious = Sidious.
Dooku vs Malak = Malak.

Why do people think Sion>Sidious?

Sion's, like, almost immortial. Sidious isn't the god you make him out to be.

he's more than enough for Sion, a brilliant manipulator who can tear peoples' spirits apart even without Dun Moch, which he was a master of...

Isn't Sion the one who can't die?

Sion is able to hold his body together via the force, so basically anything physical will not affect him.

True, but as Lightsnake said, its very likely that Sidious can wear down Sion's will, hell his words manipulated the entire Republic.

And Dun Moch is designed specifically for breaking one's spirit

Plus I'm pretty sure that a force attack that wouldn't affect Sion's body but just his mind would be able to kill him.

Sure he can hold his body together, but Sidious could toss something on top of him and render him useless for a good portion of the fight. Then Malak and Sidious destroy Dooku and go back to beat down an immobile Sion. Sidious could make Sion realize he can't win, and Sion would give up and allow himself to be defeated. Sidious and Malak win. That's how I would see it happening.