ROTS Anakin versus ROTS Obi-Wan

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ROTS Anakin versus ROTS Obi-Wan

Before you guys go nuts and call me a stupid n00b, here me out.
Is it not possible that Obi-Wan had a large advantage over Anakin, in that Anakin had nearly completely exhausted himself? Keep in mind that in the space of less then 24 hours, Anakin had wiped out the Jedi order, destroyed the seperatists, and had a complete fall from grace.

Now, while some of you might say that No, his adrenaline was pumping and he was full of the Darkside, is it not possible that during the time between the seperatists being wiped out and his choking of Padme ,causing yet MORE emotional anguish and making him not think straight (more on this later), his adrenaline levels decreased and fatigue set in?

Also, prior to the Obi-Wan/Anakin fight, the emotional anguish of having not ONE, but TWO of his closest companions (Obi-Wan and Padme) "betray" him would likely cause him to act in a non-thinking manner, for instance, force jumping onto high ground.

So, in conclusion, had Anakin not undergone such trauma, and had several hours of rest, or at least, time to recuperate as Obi-Wan had, could he have beat Obi-Wan?

Even a rematch has been done before.

Well, it is an interesting concept here, and it does bring up some very good points. But you must keep in mind that any fight involving killing Obi-Wan is bound to have some negative emotions on Anakin's part, and it is a point against him that he, while being potentially better than Obi-Wan at saber combat, has never mastered the mind game like obi-Wan has thus he is not in much better straits.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Obi-Wan is bound to have some negative emotions on Anakin's par

Sorta like how Dooku brought out the worst in Anakin?

Something like that. If Anakin is fighting his old mentor, there has to be bad blood between them. If there wasn't, Anakin can't draw on that emotion and anger to overcome Obi-Wan either. It's a double edged sword. If Anakin was more level-headed, he would be the better duellist.

That's the thing: Obi Wan would most likely not just fight him physically, but also mentally. I don't believe Obi will be stupid and cocky. He would be wise enoguh to use Anakin's emotions against him.

Yes, but will it be enough, seeing how if you remove Anakin's problems (fatigue, etc), will Obi-Wan's mind ****ing be enough?

obi won uses a defensive less showy technique that allows him to keep his energy which is awesome

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Yes, but will it be enough, seeing how if you remove Anakin's problems (fatigue, etc), will Obi-Wan's mind ****ing be enough?

You saw him fight Dooku. His anger is what lost it for him. Anakin is very hot headed, adn using that aginst him, will win it. Obi will be smart enoguh to use it against him. Anakin would lose all concentration, and would eventually lose.

anakin is too aggressive, arragant, inexperienced, confused and a fool

Yeah, Obi-Wan has more wisdom and mental fortitude than Anakin, and that will tip things in his favor.

Originally posted by Hornyman
You saw him fight Dooku.

Yes, he hacked off his wrists and decapitated him. I was just testing my theory, it appears that Anakin can't win against Kenobi. Oh well, back to South Park.

obi won is less showy but more in control

either of em could have won if they didnt just keep twirling their blades for a millenia before trying to force push. Just knock away the enemies's lightsaber then jab jab jab

You saw it when there push started. They both did at the same time, those two there fighting styles are perfected to work together. There is no way one of them can really surprise the other one, unless they change the way they fight and that can make everything even worse.

well actually I read an interesting thing somewhere (sorry I forget exactly where), that Anakin was winning the entire fight, now before you scoff, just wait me out here. The acticle was written by a professional swordfighter, who said that even a less skilled swordfighter can last a long time if they keep giving ground and retreating, like Obi-Wan did with Anakin.

Also, yes any fight with Obi-Wan would have lots of emotions, but I think that Anakin would have done better if he had some rest, think about it, the guy had just sent his emotions through the mill (killing Mace Windu, killing younglings, falling to the dark side etc.) He had also just killed the entire jedi temple, sure he had clones, but he still did some duelling. He had also just slaughtered the entire seperatist group on Mustafar, he must have killed more people than were shown in the room. You cannot convince me that the speratist leaders fled and only took, what, 4 battle droids with them. Thats not even one per person. No, he would have had to kill dozens (maybe hundreds?) of battle droids, several super battle droids and some destroyers as well.

I'm not sure which way the fight will go, but I am leaning towards Anakin

Re: ROTS Anakin versus ROTS Obi-Wan

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Before you guys go nuts and call me a stupid n00b, here me out.
Is it not possible that Obi-Wan had a large advantage over Anakin, in that Anakin had nearly completely exhausted himself? Keep in mind that in the space of less then 24 hours, Anakin had wiped out the Jedi order, destroyed the seperatists, and had a complete fall from grace.

Now, while some of you might say that No, his adrenaline was pumping and he was full of the Darkside, is it not possible that during the time between the seperatists being wiped out and his choking of Padme ,causing yet MORE emotional anguish and making him not think straight (more on this later), his adrenaline levels decreased and fatigue set in?

Also, prior to the Obi-Wan/Anakin fight, the emotional anguish of having not ONE, but TWO of his closest companions (Obi-Wan and Padme) "betray" him would likely cause him to act in a non-thinking manner, for instance, force jumping onto high ground.

So, in conclusion, had Anakin not undergone such trauma, and had several hours of rest, or at least, time to recuperate as Obi-Wan had, could he have beat Obi-Wan?

lol? a whole bunch of younglings and padawns. He is way out of thier league

Originally posted by Lord Darkstar
well actually I read an interesting thing somewhere (sorry I forget exactly where), that Anakin was winning the entire fight, now before you scoff, just wait me out here. The acticle was written by a professional swordfighter, who said that even a less skilled swordfighter can last a long time if they keep giving ground and retreating, like Obi-Wan did with Anakin.

Also, yes any fight with Obi-Wan would have lots of emotions, but I think that Anakin would have done better if he had some rest, think about it, the guy had just sent his emotions through the mill (killing Mace Windu, killing younglings, falling to the dark side etc.) He had also just killed the entire jedi temple, sure he had clones, but he still did some duelling. He had also just slaughtered the entire seperatist group on Mustafar, he must have killed more people than were shown in the room. You cannot convince me that the speratist leaders fled and only took, what, 4 battle droids with them. Thats not even one per person. No, he would have had to kill dozens (maybe hundreds?) of battle droids, several super battle droids and some destroyers as well.

I'm not sure which way the fight will go, but I am leaning towards Anakin

Well guees what I heard, Obi Wan dident have the heart to strike down this own padawan becuas ehe loved him, until half way into the fight he decided to let it go.

Although Obi wan defeated Anakin fair and square, I think Anakin would have won if he didn't jump into the lava! Haha!!

I disagree, anakin was trying as hard as he could to kill him, obi wan is hard to beat. Obi wan was fighitng with emotions, anakin was fighting to kill. He had no more sympathy for obi wan anymore. If obi wan was serious about this, anakin would not win as easily as you might think.