Deathstroke in the hunt gauntlet

Originally posted by long pig
No, that is his power.
10x the brainpower=10x the better tactician.

Plus 10x+ strength/speed/durability and 10x+++++ reaction time & healing of a peak human.

Cap gets owned hard in a fair fight, even harder if Slade has any time to prepare.

In that case we have to assume that DS was a good a tactician as Cap before he received his powers and ignore the fact that the SSS also enhanced mental abilities (certainly not close to 10x though!) Captain America has got 100 times the tactician any real human is, it seems like a stretch to think Slade is on pair with him simple because he can think and perceive slightly faster.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In that case we have to assume that DS was a good a tactician as Cap before he received his powers and ignore the fact that the SSS also enhanced mental abilities (certainly not close to 10x though!) Captain America has got 100 times the tactician any real human is, it seems like a stretch to think Slade is on pair with him simple because he can think and perceive slightly faster.

DS was the best his superiors could find, he was also the best physical specimen in his army's area.

Slade before the enhancment > Cap before his.

I never heard Cap got a mental upgrade, all I know is he only got a peak human upgrade.

DS doesn't just think and perceive faster, he can work out tactics in his mind 100 times over and find the best one.

He was doing that before midnighter was a gleam in his daddy's eye.

Roger's mind is only human, Slade's is super human.

I'd give Cap the same chance Batman has, 2/10...less if they start out on completely equal footing and both going all out.

A couple people he is not going to get past no question what so ever. 1 Mr. Sinister 2 Omega Red 3 Professor X 4 Sentry 5 Venom 6 Carnage 7 Zaladane 8 Adversary 9 Captain Mar-Vell 10 Electro. Just random people

Equating 10x brainpower to 10x tactical knowledge is a stretch. Faster brain processing speed doesn't automatically mean more knowledge.

Cap has always been in fights for 50 years you can not pass over that he been in thousands of fights and faced thousands of villains what ever Deathstroke can come up with Cap already been there done that his experience is the ultimate factor here he knows all the tricks if I was Deathstroke I should sit my ass down Indian style and beg him to teach me

Originally posted by Srankmissingnin
The shield thing was supposed to be a joke. Sure, Slade is a very cunning man but 10x the battle tactician that Cap is? Ha! With on the fly battle tactics no way in hell Slade can hold a candle to Cap even if he could out plan him (which Slade could do) before hand.
Unlike Batman, Cap has a means to protect himself at range the physique to compete in close quarters. 50/50 split IMO.

Why couldn't Slade out-strategize Cap on the fly? Deathstroke's mind acquires and processes information far faster than Cap's does and that would make me think he'd just be naturally better at 'on the fly tactics'.

Originally posted by Srankmissingnin
In that case we have to assume that DS was a good a tactician as Cap before he received his powers and ignore the fact that the SSS also enhanced mental abilities (certainly not close to 10x though!) Captain America has got 100 times the tactician any real human is, it seems like a stretch to think Slade is on pair with him simple because he can think and perceive slightly faster.

'Slightly' isn't the word. He has instantaneous reflexes due to the speed at which is mind works. Compare instantaneous to the speed at which Cap reacts, which is only peak human, and you can see how much faster Slade can think and perceive.

Originally posted by Xmarksthespot
Equating 10x brainpower to 10x tactical knowledge is a stretch. Faster brain processing speed doesn't automatically mean more knowledge.

Cap's strategical knowledge is learned. He acquired it through U.S. Army training back in WWII. From that, he has since taken his lessons and applied them in different ways, modifying and 'bending' them to better fit the situation. To say Slade's knowledge or understanding of battle tactics is so completely inferior to Steve's is absurb. Both were in the U.S. Army, both were 'special operators', and just to make a point, Slade was also involved in operations while Steve was locked away in involuntary cryogenic freezing, learning new and more advanced strategems since Cap's days of WWII. As far as his ability to take what he's learned and apply/modify, Slade's been around for 60-70 some odd years, acting as a non-combatant for only 16-17 years -- Cap's experience isn't beyond Slade, save for his time as a leader -- and he has thinking power beyond Cap's. Who do you think can apply their lessons better?

Originally posted by Golem370
Cap has always been in fights for 50 years you can not pass over that he been in thousands of fights and faced thousands of villains what ever Deathstroke can come up with Cap already been there done that his experience is the ultimate factor here he knows all the tricks if I was Deathstroke I should sit my ass down Indian style and beg him to teach me

Slade's fought for 50 years, in more wars than Cap, and also holds the title of 'Greatest Metahuman Warrior'.

In DC

Ok what about putting Blob against him I know you might think Blob but check him out before deciding Plus look at the books where Gladiator is fighting FF and see how fast Captain America moves when he about to get hit by Colossus

I don't think he gets past the first group. Cap, Deadpool, Taskmaster, and Logan? That's some stiff hand to hand competition right there. I know Slade has some good showings but then again, he's also been punked pretty badly by the Titans.

He relies on being able to figure out his opponent but I don't think he can figure out Deadpool.

People really need to read the comics instead of watching the cartoon.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Cap's strategical knowledge is learned. He acquired it through U.S. Army training back in WWII. From that, he has since taken his lessons and applied them in different ways, modifying and 'bending' them to better fit the situation. To say Slade's knowledge or understanding of battle tactics is so completely inferior to Steve's is absurb. Both were in the U.S. Army, both were 'special operators', and just to make a point, Slade was also involved in operations while Steve was locked away in involuntary cryogenic freezing, learning new and more advanced strategems since Cap's days of WWII. As far as his ability to take what he's learned and apply/modify, Slade's been around for 60-70 some odd years, acting as a non-combatant for only 16-17 years -- Cap's experience isn't beyond Slade, save for his time as a leader -- and he has thinking power beyond Cap's.

I simplified it because it's otherwise well known that Slade is considered the greatest tactician on D.C earth.
Even Superman knew this and asked Slade to help, instead of Batman.

I agree though that 10x doesn't automatically mean much other than the potential to be 10x smarter than humanly possible, but seeing Slade has used it on basically every appearance he's ever had, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by King KAM
Slade cant even beat up ROBIN!!!

lol

Actually he can, and he has, repeatively.

Originally posted by golem370
A couple people he is not going to get past no question what so ever. 1 Mr. Sinister 2 Omega Red 3 Professor X 4 Sentry 5 Venom 6 Carnage 7 Zaladane 8 Adversary 9 Captain Mar-Vell 10 Electro. Just random people

Originally posted by golem370
Ok what about putting Blob against him I know you might think Blob but check him out before deciding Plus look at the books where Gladiator is fighting FF and see how fast Captain America moves when he about to get hit by Colossus

Why do you continue to ask about characters not involved in threads? I've warned you about this, and I won't warn you again.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Aware of this. Just thought the 10x = 10x was oversimplified.
I think he gets past Cap, I can't see what Slade will do to Wade or Logan though.

A few well timed grenades, blow them to sh*t. If that don't work, there's always his trusty energy rod.😉

Originally posted by Tron
Actually he can, and he has, repeatively.

Originally posted by long pig
It takes a while for some people to realize we're not talking about the hack from the cartoon.

Even the cartoon version has beat his ass repeatively.😂

I can't believe this.
DeadPool is just a Deathstroke spin-off, while D-Pool talks too much, Slade talks few and acts more.
I think He can go through the 4th group and fall at the hands of War Machine or Iron Man.
You're severally overrating Captain America, the Red Skull with a S.H.I.E.L.D. battle during his last fight with Cap, beat the crap outta him, he walked over him with major ease, destroying a building in the process.
Slade is not getting beaten from a guy in battle armor, this guy is considered a threat from the freakin JLA and Teen Titans, even big guns like Superman or WW are on the guard when Slade is involved against them.

Can't Agent Zero's adverse effect on healing factors down Slade?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Can't Agent Zero's adverse effect on healing factors down Slade?

Why does it say Deathstroke had his first apperance in 1980????? On the DC Website?