Originally posted by eleveninchesThat's powerful lame right there.
But look at the villains parker fights against. Nowhere near as powerful as the ones the JLA fight against quite often
Re: Batman god-like?
Originally posted by brazThat looks great, but it's a tad much. Some cats on here see it and think it's the absolute truth, but some of that is going too far. That "Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds" part is pretty much only useful on the "superstitious and cowardly" common criminals who are easy to scare to begin with. Try this on a Deathstroke or Shiva or even a Hal Jordan and see what happens. The "Through his training, Batman has trained himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony" part, if true(it's not) would've meant that fatigue would've not been a factor @ all in his backbreaking encounter with Bane. It was. Bane orchestrated all that s**t to make Batman tired. It worked. Batman is an extraordinary and skilled human, but @ the end of the day, he is still HUMAN. To try to ignore that takes away from one of the things that makes him who he is and makes him great.
saw this back on a cap vs bats thread that was posted by Draco69.
From H'Sien Tan Bruce Wayne learnt the path of personal power. He learnt from the man that he had two destinies and by choosing one of them he'd receive everything he had ever wanted and the second would make him nearly omnipotent. This path would be the path of personal power he sought to avenge and to protect. In time it would also consume him. This little story is part of the package H'Sien Tan taught Bruce. The acceptance. The acceptance of one's fate, one's death and one's power. It was also a craft he taught to Bruce, to know, to feel the world and the energies around himself, to harness those energies and glean answers from them. This form of spiritualism has served Bruce well, but also it has twisted him and he has found ways to distort it, making him appear the victim even if he has wanted it. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. Also Tan taught him the way to slow down his heart, the flow of his blood, to the level of dying and yet remaining alive.
Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds, but at the same time he can push his presence inwardly and just disappear from their mind's eye, right in front of them and none will know how nor why. Furthermore he has learnt the power of suggestion, the ability to appear as something else to anyone and this is the key behind his quick costume changes and his disappearances. To add to this, his skills in these arts have given him a willpower matched by nearly none as he can ignore anything and go through stone and rock. The last skill Tan gave to Bruce was the art of the Tiger Fist, a punch so powerful it can rend through mountains, a skill, an art known to only 5 people on Earth and only 2 of them survive 'til this day.
He adapts to any situation and if he isn't able to conquer, he will find another way to do it.
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Originally posted by jinzinTo be honest, it seems like you have to think of Batman as a god for some people to think you respect him. Batman is one of my absolute favorites. I usually put him & Nightwing(who I think is a tad bit cooler) on my top ten lists. I honestly don't think he can beat a Spidey that's not holding back without some serious prep. Doesn't mean I don't respect Bats. Spidey is my ABSOLUTE favorite, but I know there are characters who would absolutely mop the floor w/him. Doesn't make me like him any less. One thing about Spidey more than almost any other hero is that he can lose and still be cool as a MFer, his popularity isn't based on the misconception that he can beat anybody.
yeah just try..batman would DEEEEESTROYYYYYYY spidey.....no actually I thought it was a tie between the two remember..I just kept arguing for bat's favor because nobody was giving him any damned respect...
That looks great, but it's a tad much. Some cats on here see it and think it's the absolute truth, but some of that is going too far. That "Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds" part is pretty much only useful on the "superstitious and cowardly" common criminals who are easy to scare to begin with. Try this on a Deathstroke or Shiva or even a Hal Jordan and see what happens. The "Through his training, Batman has trained himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony" part, if true(it's not) would've meant that fatigue would've not been a factor @ all in his backbreaking encounter with Bane. It was. Bane orchestrated all that s**t to make Batman tired. It worked. Batman is an extraordinary and skilled human, but @ the end of the day, he is still HUMAN. To try to ignore that takes away from one of the things that makes him who he is and makes him great.
What was said about batman training himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony" are all true because if they were not true batman would not have gone weeks before becoming exhusted. This statement would have been false if batman just went 2 hours of fight before becoming exhusted. And you would have been right...batman going weeks on end with out sleep is fact...at least in the comic sense..u dig
dude screw comic batman....im talkin batman begins..who uses fear as his weapon, forces his presence on others and grows in their mind scaring the living hell out of them....not gay little gray n blue tights batman with robin with the short green skirt.......and btw brainchild, Batman CAN ignore exhaustion, and pain and agony and sleep deprivation or fatigue....cuz, remember when he first walks in the league of shadows monestary, ducard says "are you reday to begin", when theyre talkin about fear and knocks his ass on the floor when Bruce said he could hardly even stand from climbing up the mountain....so yea he can ignore sleep deprivation..he was trained to...
true, yea i see what your sayin, i feel ya. like he is only human and his body will eventually shut down regardless of what he says with his mind, but im just sayin...over most people in the world, and even prolly like olympic athletes, he has waay more stamina and can stay in a long time. and as far as the fear thing...yea the ninjas may not be afraid of em cuz they were trained like him, but he still took on four of em at once n won..but yea scarecrow took bats down ill give em that, but he eventually fell in the end when he synthesized an antedote 😉 and plus.............
what about falcone and all the thugs armed with machine guns.??? he took em all down
Now, now...I love the Batman, he is the greatest character ever, and I don't doubt he would have a Chance against Spider-Man....that is if he had enough time to actually analyse him, if not and it is a one on one fight, thjere's not much chance for the Dark Knioght, Spidey is faster and Stronger.
As for Batman being God-Like I don't really know.....he might seem overpowered onvce in a while when fighting against Superman or somethign but in teh end it'S always tricks he uses, he as a person has no chance against Superman if it wasn't for his little Gadgets or Kryptonite (The Dark Knight Returns, Hush ....). After all he is jsut human and can be beat (Bane), harmed (Hush, Joker, ...) or in other ways hurt (Killing Joke, Death in the Family, War Games).
He is a great Heroe and no doubt he deserves to be up in the Top Three of both Universes, but youi ahve to look at him from a different standpoint, he is not Godlike like Superman, Wonder Woman, Green lantern, Hulk, Thor or Iron Man (I am not theat Big on Marvel so forgive me if I missed one of there God Like heroes)
Originally posted by eleveninches
Batman survived an attack by a mind-controlled superman, so parker would have NO CHANCE IN HELL
Now, he knows Superman really good though, he was weakened by the Mind Control and Batman had Kryptonite.
If Parker just met Batsy it would be an advantage for him....Batman would get better and better each second he can analyze Spidey but he can only win if he last long enough....now if we are talking Prep-Tie it is a whole different thing.