Marvel's Powerhouse Villains VS. JLA

Started by Tony Stark4 pages
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
i thought it was 300 as at the time cage could only lift 3 tons 3 x 100 = 300 😕

K3vilite isn't very good at spelling nor math it seems.

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i got that pic thought about using it as a sig

With one week of uninterrupted time, Baron Mordo would could completely cast the Seven Gates of Destruction, ending the DCU. Game over. Strange has gone far beyond Karl over the years, but Mordo does know the Seven Gates.

But according to some with one week of prep Batman will come up with an anti-Baron Mordo spray...

He keeps it next to the Bat-Shark-Repellant

Didn't Nefaria outmuscle Thor though? Thor is an absolute buttload over 300 tons. And 3000 tons, for that matter. Midgard freaking Serpent.

Maelstrom's also extremely powerful... He beat a guy who had true physical invulnerability. Flash is screwed, cuz when Maelstrom starts concentrating, he's gonna be looking a lot more normal than super speedy. Maelstrom steals ALL kinetic energy, down to the atoms, since he has stopped energy before.(I'm stealing these from Khell from the tourney, btw... props for a good pick)

Morg with the Waters of Life took down a whole bunch of heralds... Surfer and all that included. Normally, he's a little below SS. With em, he's leagues ahead.

JLA is screwed... DOOM would probly be screwed here. Batman? Who the heck is Batman? Oh right. Super genius. But not THAT much super genius.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
i thought it was 300 as at the time cage could only lift 3 tons 3 x 100 = 300 😕

Power Man a.k.a. Atlas, Goliath, Erik Josten

Originally posted by Tony Stark
K3vilite isn't very good at spelling nor math it seems.

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Poor fanboy, the first Power Man was Erik Josten, go back SUBSTAINING the Thing, substaining is a world, you need to study fool.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Didn't Nefaria outmuscle Thor though? Thor is an absolute buttload over 300 tons. And 3000 tons, for that matter. Midgard freaking Serpent.

Maelstrom's also extremely powerful... He beat a guy who had true physical invulnerability. Flash is screwed, cuz when Maelstrom starts concentrating, he's gonna be looking a lot more normal than super speedy. Maelstrom steals ALL kinetic energy, down to the atoms, since he has stopped energy before.(I'm stealing these from Khell from the tourney, btw... props for a good pick)

Morg with the Waters of Life took down a whole bunch of heralds... Surfer and all that included. Normally, he's a little below SS. With em, he's leagues ahead.

JLA is screwed... DOOM would probly be screwed here. Batman? Who the heck is Batman? Oh right. Super genius. But not THAT much super genius.


Flash with his speed can knock out Exodus and Mordo leaving Maelstrom and Morg against the JLA.
Flash can steal kinetic energy too, and Maelstrom can't stop Flash from entering into the Speed Force and exit from it with a bunch of IMP ready to smackdown him.
Flash is powered from the Speed Force, an entire dimension.

Okay no offence but to my knowledge "substain" isn't a word unless it's some kind of non-english variant or slang.
I've forgotten what IMP stands for. Things can't initiate movement without kinetic energy.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Okay no offence but to my knowledge "substain" isn't a word unless it's some kind of non-english variant or slang.
I've forgotten what IMP stands for. Things can't initiate movement without kinetic energy.

Search on google substaining and substain.
And I'm not english.
IMP=Infinity Mass Punch, Flash most powerful hit, he punch you with his body mass increased and charged from the energy of the Speed Force Dimension, this hit sent Zum, a White Martian with Superman's level durability into orbit at escape velocity.

Really? I thought my lexicon of obscure words was pretty comprehensive. What's does it mean?

I'm still not convinced the JLA team has what it takes. For starters MM and Aquaman are relatively redundant considering Exodus will siphon off their psionic abilities to augment his own.
Batman is also redundant, because his scientific knowledge is grossly overstated, and I doubt he can come up with anything definitive in a week.
Mordo and Loki have a helluva lot of of magical ability between them.
I don't see why Flash would be invulnerable to Maelstrom's manipulation.
Morg's taken on multiple heralds of Galactus simultaneously.

Morg w/WOL is more of a stud than Sups or any other member of the JLA. Dont forget that Loki is pretty strong himself too...between those two they r gonna be really challenged in a physical sense.

You forgot Nefaria... Something about beating up the Avengers. Pshh. 3000 tons my arse.

And yes, Maelstrom beats the crap out of Flash. He'd probably kill all of them without the telepaths... You're seriously underestimating what no kinetic energy in a large area can do. No movement, no Speed Force, no energy blasts, nothing. The telepaths are there, but... uh oh... Exodus just drained all of them.

Maelstrom can also boost himself with the energies he's drained. I'm thinking Flash might be a pretty good source of kinetic energy... I smell a new class hundred thousand+ in the house.

And damn, now that I think of it, who COULDN'T Maelstrom and Exodus take? Team drainage rules all.

I thought Nefaria would be overkill. But yeah he's there too and he adds his considerable might to the villain team.
Team drainage does indeed rule all.

The IMP is not really an infinite mass punch, Flash's attacks are just force bolts with running as a special effect. If the Flash were subject to relativistic time and mass effects there'd be all sorts of problems like not being in the same timeframe as his opponents, getting smashed/left-behind-by the Earth, or collapsing the solar system into a black hole as his mass approached infinity. The Flash is a force manipulator who can only manifest his power through running.

And though I try to resist repeating myself in these discussions, if Mordo is allowed a week of preparation, he can end the entire universe. It takes a week to cast the spell, but then the unmaking is unstoppable. Unless tactics like "going back in time st stop the other team's prep" are permitted (in whick case this gets almost impossable to discuss), there's really nothing to be done. If we're talking a scorched Earth, all or nothing assault on the DCU, Mordo takes this by himself.before the battle is joined.

Just went onto Oxford English dictionary. Pretty sure they are reliable... ✅

substain => returned no results.
sustain => was tried instead, see results below.

substaining => returned no results.
sustaining => was tried instead, see results below

But the guy is from Italy so you gotta cut him some slack.
A few bands use the spelling as Substain, I think. So maybe he thought it was an actual word.

Originally posted by Magic_attack
Just went onto Oxford English dictionary. Pretty sure they are reliable... ✅

substain => returned no results.
sustain => was tried instead, see results below.

substaining => returned no results.
sustaining => was tried instead, see results below

But the guy is from Italy so you gotta cut him some slack.
A few bands use the spelling as Substain, I think. So maybe he thought it was an actual word.

My research shows the same...

Who's the fool?

I think we all know... and it seems as if they're a big Riddick fan.

Is it at all possible that the same someone who can't spell and can't do math doesn't have any real comic knowledge either...?

Hmmm. I think that is a very good possibility.

What do you think k3vilite?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
My research shows the same...

Who's the fool?

I think we all know... and it seems as if they're a big Riddick fan.

Is it at all possible that the same someone who can't spell and can't do math doesn't have any real comic knowledge either...?

Hmmm. I think that is a very good possibility.

What do you think k3vilite?


Is it possible that I was wrong on spelling one world but I've always supported my arguments with concrete things and facts while you just use fanboy lines like "this guy has heart", you are so hard to understand when some characters are outmatched that you will probably support a fight between Speedball and Galactus.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Morg w/WOL is more of a stud than Sups or any other member of the JLA. Dont forget that Loki is pretty strong himself too...between those two they r gonna be really challenged in a physical sense.

Loki is Class 50.
Class 50.An ant compared to JLA strong guys.
What about Superman using the sundip tactic becoming the uber all guy that fought Imperiex?
Originally posted by Laminator_X
The IMP is not really an infinite mass punch, Flash's attacks are just force bolts with running as a special effect. If the Flash were subject to relativistic time and mass effects there'd be all sorts of problems like not being in the same timeframe as his opponents, getting smashed/left-behind-by the Earth, or collapsing the solar system into a black hole as his mass approached infinity. The Flash is a force manipulator who can only manifest his power through running.

And though I try to resist repeating myself in these discussions, if Mordo is allowed a week of preparation, he can end the entire universe. It takes a week to cast the spell, but then the unmaking is unstoppable. Unless tactics like "going back in time st stop the other team's prep" are permitted (in whick case this gets almost impossable to discuss), there's really nothing to be done. If we're talking a scorched Earth, all or nothing assault on the DCU, Mordo takes this by himself.before the battle is joined.


First of all, the IMP isn't a force bolt.
Flash enters in the speed force, and exit from it charged from its energy, his mass is indeed increased tough isn't infinite but it's outstanding, the SF protect Wally from the effects you are listing.
Flash doesn't manifest his power through running and stop.
The guy is always connected to the speed force dimension.
The "IMP" is the name gave to the superpunch charged from the SF Energy on this board, and it requires seconds if not less to him to charge it.
During the fight with Zum, the martian speedster, Flash passed through a bazar somewhere in Asia, and their movement at superspeed make a vase falling from the hands of his owner, during the time the vase fall from his hands and was going to touch the ground, Flash continued to fight Zum and then performed the IMP.
Then he was able to turn back to the bazar and catch the vase before it crushed in pieces.
Do you realize how fast is Flash?
Maelstrom or Exodus aren't going to stop him.

"Loki is Class 50.
Class 50.An ant compared to JLA strong guys"

loki rarely uses his strength this is why is uses MAGIC one of marvel's best.

and i'm still sticking to marvel with this one

Maybe he meant sustain, meaning to keep alive.

1. To keep in existence; maintain.
2. To supply with necessities or nourishment; provide for.
3. To support from below; keep from falling or sinking; prop.
4. To support the spirits, vitality, or resolution of; encourage.
5. To bear up under; withstand: can't sustain the blistering heat.
6. To experience or suffer: sustained a fatal injury.
7. To affirm the validity of: The judge has sustained the prosecutor's objection.
8. To prove or corroborate; confirm.
9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.

Originally posted by long pig
Maybe he meant sustain, meaning to keep alive.

1. To keep in existence; maintain.
2. To supply with necessities or nourishment; provide for.
3. To support from below; keep from falling or sinking; prop.
4. To support the spirits, vitality, or resolution of; encourage.
5. To bear up under; withstand: can't sustain the blistering heat.
6. To experience or suffer: sustained a fatal injury.
7. To affirm the validity of: The judge has sustained the prosecutor's objection.
8. To prove or corroborate; confirm.
9. To keep up (a joke or assumed role, for example) competently.


I mean support my arguments