Wolverine vs Green Goblin

Started by riceroost9 pages

I really fail to understand how a glider swings momentum in the Goblin's favor. Wolverine has beaten the crap out of people that actually can fly on their own power. The glider keeps him safe for a while, but all he can do from the sky is pelt Wolverine with a bunch of weapons that aren't going to do him any serious harm. I say Wolverine picks up a metal grate and heaves it at him or throws the Murumasa sword at the glider. Go read Wolverine Vol. 2 # 35. If Wolverine can take out a Nazi Stuka dive bombing him with a Matador's sword he can figure out a way to ground Norman. And once that happens Norman is toast.

Originally posted by riceroost
I really fail to understand how a glider swings momentum in the Goblin's favor. Wolverine has beaten the crap out of people that actually can fly on their own power. The glider keeps him safe for a while, but all he can do from the sky is pelt Wolverine with a bunch of weapons that aren't going to do him any serious harm. I say Wolverine picks up a metal grate and heaves it at him or throws the Murumasa sword at the glider. Go read Wolverine Vol. 2 # 35. If Wolverine can take out a Nazi Stuka dive bombing him with a Matador's sword he can figure out a way to ground Norman. And once that happens Norman is toast.

Norman is a bullet timer with Spiderman-esque strength, super weapons, great skill, and a Glider that can go over Mach 1 at best. He doesn't even need his Glider.

a lot of people say the pumkin bombs wont do much to wolverine but people forget to take into account that even though his body can heal from almost any injury that doesnt mean he cant feel pain or is uneffected by the concussive force of the bombs. if he gets hit by one head on he may heal from it but he'd still get koed by the force of the blast, also osborn has some other tricks in that bag of his like the rarely used goblin suprise they worked pretty well on both spidy and the human torch thy'ld work well on logan too

Goblin take it every time.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Norman is a bullet timer
So? You say that like it means something to Wolverine. Wolverine has hit Spider-Man therefor ditto for yer pal Norman.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
with Spiderman-esque strength,
So? Spider-Man pounded on Wolverine as hard as he could in Spidey vs. Wolvy # 1. All Wolverine did was laugh and then get right back up completely unfased.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
super weapons,
Super? Nah. Nothin in his bag of tricks that can put Wolverine down. And it's not like Wolverine's just going to stand on the ground in one spot waiting to get hit.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
great skill,
I know you aren't comparing Norman's skills to Wolverine's. That would be a folly sir.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
and a Glider that can go over Mach 1 at best.
Isn't Mach 1 like 700 something mph? last time I looked the Glider specs were as follows.

Paraphernalia
A vertical thrust "goblin glider", powered by a miniature turbo-fan. It can reach speeds between 90 to nearly 300 miles per hour and support 400 pounds (including Osborn's own weight)

That's a lot different than Mach 1.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
He doesn't even need his Glider.
How the hell is he going to run for the hills without the glider? Norman aint gonna outrun Wolverine on foot.

Originally posted by riceroost
So? You say that like it means something to Wolverine. Wolverine has hit Spider-Man therefor ditto for yer pal Norman.
So? Spider-Man pounded on Wolverine as hard as he could in Spidey vs. Wolvy # 1. All Wolverine did was laugh and then get right back up completely unfased.
Super? Nah. Nothin in his bag of tricks that can put Wolverine down. And it's not like Wolverine's just going to stand on the ground in one spot waiting to get hit.
I know you aren't comparing Norman's skills to Wolverine's. That would be a folly sir.
Isn't Mach 1 like 700 something mph? last time I looked the Glider specs were as follows.

Paraphernalia
A vertical thrust "goblin glider", powered by a miniature turbo-fan. It can reach speeds between 90 to nearly 300 miles per hour and support 400 pounds (including Osborn's own weight)

That's a lot different than Mach 1.
How the hell is he going to run for the hills without the glider? Norman aint gonna outrun Wolverine on foot.

Where do you get this crap? Spiderman knocked him out once with one punch. Healing my ass. GG has Whopper Bombs. Those things would kill Wolvie easily. The Goblin's Glider ISN'T a turbo fan. He actually uses rocket-esque technology, which he installed himself. And GG's skill isn't as good as Wolvie's, but way more than enough to get the job done.

*sigh*

OK, let's give Logan as much credit as possible(while still retaining sanity), and assume that a single pumpkin bomb to the head WOULDN'T kill him or KO him. That still doesn't change the fact that every bomb is going to do major damage that is going to take time to heal, and knock him around. Figure 1 bomb to ground Wolverine, followed up by 5 or 6 more while he's still prone, and Wolverine is done for. After that barrage, he would be nothing but a skeleton, then 1 or 2 more pumpkin bombs(and I'm being generous), and his bones would be scattered all over the area.

PS
Anyone who brings up the nuke or Nitro incident in response to this, will be considered to STUPID to engage in an intelligent conversation and ignored.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Where do you get this crap? Spiderman knocked him out once with one punch.

waitaminute! where do you get THIS crap?!?! WHERE....EVER...has spidey KOed loges in one hit? I'd like to see it....

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Healing my ass. GG has Whopper Bombs. Those things would kill Wolvie easily.
uhhh no... wolverine's survived an explosion that leveled 3 city blocks, he's survived a nuke, he's survived nitros blast, a plane crash, an inferno, a grenade at point blank, getting blasted by 3 sentinals at once... GG doesn't have what it takes to EASILY put him down.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
The Goblin's Glider ISN'T a turbo fan. He actually uses rocket-esque technology, which he installed himself.
wolverine's trashed planes flying by him, cut bullets out of the air, snagged a rocket as it was going past him and took down speed demon.... if GG gets within range he goes down... simple as that...

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
And GG's skill isn't as good as Wolvie's, but way more than enough to get the job done.
no..no it isn't... sabretooth has all the skills wolverine has AND all the physical stats that goblin has and then some... even he isn't guaranteed to put logan down... so GG certainly isn't... not in hand to hand he's not.. no way in hell.

Didn't Logan also die by a Sentinel blast and being reduced to a skeleton?

Originally posted by jinzin
waitaminute! where do you get THIS crap?!?! WHERE....EVER...has spidey KOed loges in one hit? I'd like to see it....

uhhh no... wolverine's survived an explosion that leveled 3 city blocks, he's survived a nuke, he's survived nitros blast, a plane crash, an inferno, a grenade at point blank, getting blasted by 3 sentinals at once... GG doesn't have what it takes to EASILY put him down.

wolverine's trashed planes flying by him, cut bullets out of the air, snagged a rocket as it was going past him and took down speed demon.... if GG gets within range he goes down... simple as that...

no..no it isn't... sabretooth has all the skills wolverine has AND all the physical stats that goblin has and then some... even he isn't guaranteed to put logan down... so GG certainly isn't... not in hand to hand he's not.. no way in hell.


your boardering on fanboy turf

Originally posted by lando005
your boardering on fanboy turf

Totally agreed. He needs to read more comics than just Wolverine.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Didn't Logan also die by a Sentinel blast and being reduced to a skeleton?

older logan, alternate timeline= irrelivant to logan of 616. 😐

Originally posted by lando005
your boardering on fanboy turf

bullshit.. I'm simply stating what wolverine has done.. and he's DONE the things he's done...

you guys are honestly trying to compare skill levels of green goblin and wolverine and III'M the fanboy?!?! 😆
good one... 😐

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Totally agreed. He needs to read more comics than just Wolverine.
I do.. i read plenty of comics and the majority of the comics I own are spiderman titles so there goes your theory out the window... too bad norman osborn couldn't even compete with jason mcendale because of jason's third rate skill... too bad macendale lost repeatedly to ghost rider... too bad wolverine stalemated ghostrider... too bad the wolverine that exists would actually slaughter GG up close, instead of the wolverine you WANT to exist.

Originally posted by jinzin
older logan, alternate timeline= irrelivant to logan of 616. 😐

bullshit.. I'm simply stating what wolverine has done.. and he's DONE the things he's done...

you guys are honestly trying to compare skill levels of green goblin and wolverine and I'M the fanboy?!?! 😆
good one... 😐

We never WERE comparing skill levels. 🙄 All we said was he has just enough needed. Maybe some more, too.
That older Logan WAS 616. The only difference was that it was an alternate ending, not full timeline like Ultimate or Marvel Tales(based off of the stories, only with a good bit of changes and new stories).

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
We never WERE comparing skill levels. 🙄 All we said was he has just enough needed. Maybe some more, too.
That older Logan WAS 616. The only difference was that it was an alternate ending, not full timeline like Ultimate or Marvel Tales(based off of the stories, only with a good bit of changes and new stories).

not 616 = not canon....

events that have taken place in 616 did not take place in DOFP end of story....

and yes you did you said it would be enough.. well uhhh no.. it wouldn't.. again sabretooth has the same physical stats and greater physical attributes with A LOT more formal skill.. green goblin is a "meat and potatoes" fighter... and it's not going to be enough to take wolverine down.. hell he proved that while trying to throw down with macendale...

Originally posted by jinzin
not 616 = not canon....

events that have taken place in 616 did not take place in DOFP end of story....

Why not? It was based on what could and can happen, so it was the same Wolverine. Thus, it counts.

Originally posted by jinzin
older logan, alternate timeline= irrelivant to logan of 616. 😐

bullshit.. I'm simply stating what wolverine has done.. and he's DONE the things he's done...

you guys are honestly trying to compare skill levels of green goblin and wolverine and III'M the fanboy?!?! 😆
good one... 😐

So what Wolverine should exist? This itself is a circular argument, you are always going to argue higher, and the opponent will always argue lower.

Regardless I'm going to level up my Baldur's Gate characters, night all.

Originally posted by jinzin
and yes you did you said it would be enough.. well uhhh no.. it wouldn't.. again sabretooth has the same physical stats and greater physical attributes with A LOT more formal skill.. green goblin is a "meat and potatoes" fighter... and it's not going to be enough to take wolverine down.. hell he proved that while trying to throw down with macendale...

So catching up with Spiderman and then outskilling him while keeping up with Spidey's speed and strength is better than what Logan could do. Wolvie's screwed, Glider or not.

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Why not? It was based on what could and can happen, so it was the same Wolverine. Thus, it counts.
no it doesn't.. you have no idea where the diveregance between that timeline and 616 occurs.. look.. sabretooth can tell the difference between two of the same characters from different demensional timelines just like wolverine did in infinity war, so too did sabretooth do with beast from the AOA timeline.. that right there proves that the while they may be the same characters they're not exactly the same... thus NOT THE SAME, it doesn't count... if you want to get real technical. wolverine was old and battle worn when that happened anyways.... thus it STILL doesn't count.