Avengers vs. Fantastic Four vs. X-Men vs. Defenders

4 of the greatest Marvel teams ... in a combat ...

3 of them (excluding Defenders) ... are very well known...

for this encounter... the individual teams have the following members:

The Avengers:
The Migthy Thor, Hercules (Prince of Power), Iron Man, Wonderman, Captain America, Vision, Wanda, The Wasp, Hawkeye, Swordman, Luke Cage (Powerman)

The Fantastic Four:
Reed Richards, Sue Richards, Jonny Storm (The Human Torch), Ben "The Thing" Grimm, She-Hulk, Franklin (i dont know exactly, which powers he posess... heard that this are more mental powers)

X-Men:
Professor X, Beast, Iceman, Cyclops, Colossus, Phoenix, Wolverine, Rogue, Storm, Magneto, Jubilee, Cable

The Defenders:
Doctor Stephen Strange, The Silver Surfer, Namor (the Sub-Mariner),
The Incredible Hulk, Valkyrie

which is the strongest, mightiest team ?

i would give it either the team of the Avengers (because of Thor) or The Defenders (because of Surfer and a totally out of control HULK)

Phoenix kills everyone with a thought.....and if not her then franklin richards does....

Franklin richards as huge reality warping powers, so no one, apart from phoenix and wanda would stand a chance, so you might as well make this a Phoenix vs Wanda vs Franklin thread. Phoenix wins by the way

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Franklin richards as huge reality warping powers, so no one, apart from phoenix and wanda would stand a chance, so you might as well make this a Phoenix vs Wanda vs Franklin thread. Phoenix wins by the way

I wouldn't have guessed your last sentence, if it wasn't for your username.

It took all of those to handle the defenders before and the defenders weren't bloodlusted and Strange wasn't able to use his eye.

Excluding the immensly cosmics, the Defenders win.

Wanda isn't much of a problem really, her powers are just paper thin illusions. The only reason she was capable of doing what she did was because she had years of slow prep against people who trust her.

Yeah, if Franklin or Pheonix get pissed it's over, but if they're at the levels they're normally at, the Defenders can mop this up. They've taken on this many themselves, and it's not 3-on-1 here, so they have the leg up. Strange might even be able to negate anything Wanda and/or Franklin could do. It would come down to the pheonix, and which version of her decided to show up (regular-ish Jean or uber-powerful cosmic entity).

HAWKEYE EMERGES THE VICTOR.

Franklin and Phoenix are on this?

What a bad day to get up the bed for the others.

Unless.....Hawkeye shows up and shoots his migthy tnt arrow!

Green Arrow eat your heart out.

make a new thread without the uber powerful franklin and phoenix so we can make some interesting arguments.

Done.