Anakin vs. NJO Luke & Revan

If we don't know what Anakin would be at at his max how do we know he couldn't?

What? We don't, for sure, hence why I said it was a crappy thread due to the amount of speculation involved. But no one we know of could have, including Ragnos, and however powerful he could have been, he could not have become far more powerful than Ragnos.

revan and luke will kill anakin

Well, considering how customizable Revan is, and how I know little to nothing of him outside of the game. I do know Revan is a brilliant strategist, and a powerful duelist. But I yet to have a grasp on how powerful he is, or isn't.

REVAN isn't that powerful, just smart and knows how to use it, just on a level greater then Obi-Won. REVAN'S fanboys are nearly all powerful on this forum.

We're not fanboys. Revan is powerful. "Heart of the Force." What does that tell you.

Anakin loses probably.

smart and knows how to use it

I prefer brains to raw power.

Originally posted by Se7in
Yeah, Anakin had the most midichlorians, which means that if he reached full potential, he would have a grasp of the Force greater than any before him. This battle would probably be ridiculous. Revan would be killed before the battle even really starts, regardless of his knowledge. NJO Luke can rip apart starcruisers with pure Force powers, so considering full potential Anakin's strength, he would rip Revan apart just with the Force. Saber's would kinda be useless here, since it would be smarter to ust use the Force. If you put FP(full potential) Anakin vs. NJO Luke, I really can't say, but Revan isn't even a variable.

Let me point a few things out.

First off, this thread is so full of "what ifs" it isn't worth debating. We have no way of knowing what Anakin "would have" been like, therefore we shouldn't waste our time making up stories, since I could assume just as easily that he becomes so powerful, he becomes one with the Force and thus cannot fight this battle.

Second off, it NEVER says Anakin has the most midi-chlorians of all time, ever. Read that again. He's not the ONLY potential chosen one or even potential high level force user. He's just the only one discovered in the PT. End of story. He's not god, couldn't ever be, and that's that.

Third, as I said before, this thread is unworkable. No one wins, because it could never be judged on anything other than "I think All powerful Anakin could/couldn't win; here's a half-baked explanation why..."

Gotta love Janus.

As far as my opinion is concerned, Anakin at his full potential would be at such a level of enlightenment and skill that he could likely take this incredibly lethal combination on. I'm not saying he would win, but he could definately fight them off if not kill one.

Dooku took on Anakin and Obi-Wan Kaninja at the same time, and in Episode 3, they were both more powerful than he was IMHO.

Hey Nefarus, nice to see ya, where ya been?

And to answer this thread, I have no clue whatsoever. We have no idea how powerful Anakin would be at full potential and thus there is plently of room for speculation and blind guessing. But no matter how powerful he is at full potential, as many people mentioned before, he isn't god, and therefore it is entirely possible to take him down. Keep that in mind Anakin fans.

Revan's potential is enormous too, Anakin wouldn't have a chance.

Too many variables. GL hints that Anakin may have the greatest potential ever, but mostly what he says applies to the movies/novelizations (aka "canon"😉. Officially, for example, the ancient Sith are described as "godlike" in comparison to later force users. I'd be willing to bet that there are Ancient Sith users that are every bit as powerful as the later generations of Revan, Anakin, or Luke.

The EU factors in both canon and what is "official," so therefore, we can't simply assume Anakin is the greatest force ever to walk the universe.

Look, Anakin was a product of the force, be it natural or not and no one had the potential he did.
If NJO Luke can toy with gravity, I think Anakin could really play with the universe.
but he got whooped instead

btw it's good to be back

Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
Look, Anakin was a product of the force, be it natural or not and no one had the potential he did.
If NJO Luke can toy with gravity, I think Anakin could really play with the universe.
but he got whooped instead

btw it's good to be back

You don't KNOW that. It's implied, and he definitely has the highest Midi-Chlorian count in the PT, but to say he is greater than millenia of force users is just being daft and attempting to argue based on ignorance. From our knowledge, the Jedi Order was once a lot larger than it was, as was the Sith Empire, who's to say not a single individual there had more potential than Anakin?

We're going off knowledge we have of the movies, where, of course, Anakin has the greatest potential there.

Obi-Wan did say it's over 20,000 and Yoda's count isn't even that high.

I don't see why this is difficult for people to accept. But when you people can find another force user who was created by the force itself(natural or unnatural) then I'll consider them as having as much potential as Ani.

But since none exist, Anakin and the Skywalker clan are in a class all to their own

Nihilus was created of Dark Side energies, or so its said. Plagueis can control midi-chlorians. Again, simply because you don't know of someone who was doesn't mean there aren't any. And simply because you don't know the circumstances of individuals like the Ancient Sith doesn't mean they weren't created without force intervention. Again, you're attempting to argue this based on ignorance.

I've already conceded Anakin certainly has the greatest potential of anyone in the movies, this is pretty much confirmed, but I will not concede he was greater than everyone that has ever lived in the EU, including thousands upon thousands of individuals because it is not proven. Is it a possibility? Yes. But to say, for sure, that he is the best is attempting to use absence of proof as proof of absence.

nobody ever checked luke's midichlorians so how could you possibly know he had fewer or more?? nobody knows lukes

Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
I don't see why this is difficult for people to accept. But when you people can find another force user who was created by the force itself(natural or unnatural) then I'll consider them as having as much potential as Ani.

But since none exist, Anakin and the Skywalker clan are in a class all to their own

Nefarus I'm not certain just how you and Janus can respect each other seeing you both have totally opposite views, but seriosuly dude you sound like ((Anomaly)).

And also this thread is not workable because there are to many "what ifs" involved.

Although IMO Anakin would die.