Ups and Downs of the Expanded Universe

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Ups and Downs of the Expanded Universe

Post what you like, dislake, and love about EU, this topic is everything EU, enjoy!

Good:
KOTOR 1
KOTOR 2
TOTJ
-More details on Sith/Jedi Wars

Bad (meh):
Yuzhang Vong
New Characters

Ugly:
NJO Luke
Authors who think "OMG ma character ist teh pwnage!11!"

Good:
Most things prior to PT, Clone Wars, Shatterpoint

Bad:
NJO and stupid characters

Ugly:
Splinter in the Mind's Eye *cringes*

Good: Everything KOTOR Era and before.

Bad: Everything post ROTJ

Ugly: Yuuzhan Vong

Please mommy make it stop this kind of crap should have never touched the shelves of stores anywhere: NJO. ESPECIALLY Luke.

good:
i like just about everything.

Bad:
the unifying force

Ugly:
fanboys

Good:
Creature Handling
Star Wars Galaxies

Bad:
Nothing

Ugly:
Nothing

Good:
Pre-PTM
Character backgrounds and biographies
Fills in plotholes (sometimes)

Bad:
Creates plotholes
Take Luke from a pansy into a Force God in a few pages

Ugly:
Yuuzhan Vong
NJO Luke
Admiral Fyarr
Imperial Remnant

good: jedi outcast, thrawn trilogy

bad: KOTOR (yes i'm series...total tosh)

ugly: death of chewie

Everyone seems to have a problem with NJO Luke. Why? He had twenty-five years to basically do nothing but train himself, he should be more powerful. Do they over-power him or something? 😕

Personality and the fact people don't like how he turned out.

Good:

Everything up until ROTJ

bad:

Post ROTJ

Ugly: Nihilus.

Good:
New Jedi Order
Thrawn Trilogy
Dark Empire
Clone Wars
New characters: Mara Jade, Solo kids, new Jedi

Bad:
Corellian Trilogy

Ugly:
Jedi Academy books: 'Kenobis blade' ect

Good:
KotOR
JK series
TOTJ
Pre-TPM series

Bad:
Yuuzhan Vong
Nihilus (force feed? Pfft)

Ugly:
NJO... New Jedi Order

Originally posted by General Zink
Everyone seems to have a problem with NJO Luke. Why? He had twenty-five years to basically do nothing but train himself, he should be more powerful. Do they over-power him or something? 😕

ya they over power luke alot.

and ya ugly:
nihilus.

Well, considering Yoda trained for 700 years and never came close to NJO Luke's strength, yeah he was WAY overpowered.

Originally posted by Se7in
Well, considering Yoda trained for 700 years and never came close to NJO Luke's strength, yeah he was WAY overpowered.

Years of training doesn't correlate into expertise. It's how productive that training is, and how much that individual improved over the course of the training. Someone could do intensive training for a couple years and match those who have spent a lifetime, and it happens.

For all you know, Yoda could have trained over 700 years with Master Complacent.

Yeah, but that's not what happened. Yoda worked his friggin' ass off.

Man, I didn't think everyone hated NJO. I like it (despite its flaws).

good:
kotor(s)
clone wars stuff
battlefront (if you include it as eu)
most games though a couple suck horribly bad.
TOTJ
anything about ancient sith.

Bad😛ost ROTJ stuff,well a lot of it.
anything written for children

Ugly:
vong
NJO luke
han and leia's divorce
chewie's lameass death
Almost everything else in NJO
jedi trial
splinter of a minds eye stands out on a crap pedestal of it's own.
the boba fett book series

NJO luke is ridiculously overpowered as are most charachters in eu but he just takes it to a new extreme especially considering his tremendously low amount of experience against decent force users, lack of resouces from which he could aquire knowledge and overall peaceful attitude, war makes you sharper yet somehow luke's half ass jedi order with a bunch of pansies with little knowledge or experience (except maybe luke but even then he fought a cripple and some ex-padawans) Luke only having two weeks of training and maybe some time meditating yet being able to do things beyond the greatest sith lords ever just because he's a skywalker, I personally find NJO just to be promotional rubbish. Illustrious or someone intelligent (there is a lack of them) might point out Revan or exar or sadow also being overpowered the differences are

1)exar was only as powerful as he was because of sith amulets and even then he's not portrayed as the invincible god luke is made out to be.

2)Sadow was a sith who devoted almost every waking moment of an insanely long life into contemplating the force and was around in the time of the greatest sith magicians learning from one who spent five thousand years studying the force. he actually had to work for his power t wasn't just given to him because his daddy was special.

3)Revan's accomplishments in KOTOR while great still don't portray him as an unstopable behemoth, He had to work and study for his abilities, and was shown to be weak at times, from what we see from kotor he is very powerful but not ridiculously so he's still mortal, his abilities aren't anything special. Everything else said about him is based off of quotes or logical deductions made off said quotes.

Say what you want but NJO luke is way too overpowered, and the power given to him is not power he's earned or worked for.