Blackbolt vs Doomsday

Started by Khellendros4 pages

Originally posted by K3VIL
BB electron blast keep at bay and throwed into space the Sphinx, I don't know if it was a less powerful version of Sphinx or the full power one, but that's a feat, if he can do that to Sphinx, he can do the same to Doomsday.
Also BB strenght must be on a high scale cause the guy has throwed down with Gladiator, Ikaris etc.

It wasn't Galactus-challenegin Sphinx, but it was a Sphinx who had singlehandedly taken out the Fantastic Four, Quicksilver and the Inhuman royal family. So the guy wasn't a pushover.

Originally posted by 28Dave37
bb strength is 1 ton then later he can make it 60 tons
i dont know if its more now but thats what i know.

I'd put him closer to Class 80 these days. Guy swats Namor, trades blows with Hulk and Gladiator and knocked Ikaris on his ass.

Originally posted by King KAM
at full scream he has the same effect as a 60 megaton nuclear warhead, but his destruction is worse because his explosion is spread on a celluar level

His voice is MUCH stronger now.

He swated Namor like no one else has. I would certainly place him in the 100 league judging from that appearance.

Originally posted by Wynndar
He swated Namor like no one else has. I would certainly place him in the 100 league judging from that appearance.

It was impressive, but I see that more as a feat of skill and speed more than raw strength.

U have aknowledge the strength too. Namor went flying for some undetermined distance (could have abeen over a mile) and shattered the concrete of a huge dam and didnt come back til later even though he was probably in water.

Originally posted by Wynndar
U have aknowledge the strength too. Namor went flying for some undetermined distance (could have abeen over a mile) and shattered the concrete of a huge dam and didnt come back til later even though he was probably in water.

I do acknowledge the strength, but I don't underestimate it. I put BB at a solid Clas 80, because he has no lifting feats to put him at class 100. Trading blows succesfully with other class 100 characters, while impressive, can be explained away by his high level of fighting skill. Being a skilled class 80 guy with a host of other impressive powers and one uber attack is nothing to be ashamed of.

"I put BB at a solid Clas 80, because he has no lifting feats to put him at class 100. Trading blows succesfully with other class 100 characters, while impressive, can be explained away by his high level of fighting skill"

You have good points. But think this way.

How many lifting feats Classic Juggernaut and Thanos have.

Of course those can be exceptions, but its something to think about.

To say nothing of the fact that the Thing has gone up against the Hulk on occasion.

Originally posted by olympian
You have good points. But think this way.

How many lifting feats Classic Juggernaut and Thanos have.

Of course those can be exceptions, but its something to think about.


Yeah, well, it's not like I don't WANT him to be a class 100 guy, I jsut don't see it yet.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
To say nothing of the fact that the Thing has gone up against the Hulk on occasion.

Thing has nowhere the record of wins against the Hulk that BB does.

Originally posted by olympian
"I put BB at a solid Clas 80, because he has no lifting feats to put him at class 100. Trading blows succesfully with other class 100 characters, while impressive, can be explained away by his high level of fighting skill"

You have good points. But think this way.

How many lifting feats Classic Juggernaut and Thanos have.

Of course those can be exceptions, but its something to think about.

Did someone say Juggernaut?

When fighting an army battalion,The Juggernaut slammed his fists into the ground with such force it created an earthquake that ripped through the entire valley and brought a hill crumbling down on them. --Uncanny X-Men #33

Instead of moving out of the way,he lets Spider-Man drive a gas tanker right into him. Not only is he totally unmoving from the impact,but he walks out of the resulting gas inferno on fire and completely unconcerned. --The Amazing Spider-Man #230

The Juggernaut allowed Dazzler to futily blast all her energy directly into him at point blank range until she was drained. She fell unconscious as he stood over her completely unharmed. --Uncanny X-Men #218

took the Fantastic Four's Thing down for the count in seconds with just 3 successive blows. Thing would arise,only to fall back down unconscious. --Secret Wars II #7

sent Thor hurtling across the skies and then through a store wall with a casual backslap. --Thor #411

When hit so hard by Rogue of the X-Men that the shockwave from the punch shattered every window of the street,The Juggernaut simply stood there looking down on her with his arms crossed. --Uncanny X-Men #218

The Juggernaut caused the entire X-Mansion to shake and nearly collapse by stomping from all the way at the front gates of the estate. And was said to be using only a fraction of his power to accomplish it. --Uncanny X-Men #12

The Juggernaut has on two occasions allowed Cannonball to blast directly into him. And both times Cannonball was knocked out of blast mode and barely conscious while The Juggernaut remained totally unmoved and unphased.

The Juggernaut has withstood even Thor's godforce(which caused Galactus to flee for his life on one occasion,and shattered the prime Celestial's protective dome on another) with absolutely no physical damage whatsoever. --Thor #412

He withstood a direct blast from Stellaris's Celestial armor with zero effect to his person. The sheer energy radius of the blast hitting him was so powerful it created a large chasm in the Earth. --Thunderstrike #2

In a confrontation with Colossus,the first blow Juggernaut connects with ends the fight. Leaving Colossus unconcious when he lands from it. --Uncanny X-Men #183

The Juggernaut nearly drowned the Hulk by forcing Hulk's head underwater. Hulk had to use silt from the riverbed in Juggernaut's eyes to make The Juggernaut release his grip on Hulk's neck. --Hulk #402

Harmlessly absorbed a million volts of electricity. --Amazing Spider-Man #229

Despite suffering a significant power loss,The Juggernaut was still able to match Prime(who proved more than strong enough to match Thor punch for punch) in a direct test of strength before slamming Prime back through a wall. --Exiles #4

Tore through a wall 50 times the tensile strength of battleship steel as though it were a "a thin layer of plywood". --Uncanny X-Men #12

He had a vat of molten steel dumped on him by Deadpool and continued to fight uneffected and awash with flame. --Deadpool vol.1 #3

In a fight with the New Warriors,Firestar tried to stop him by heating his armor to the point where it became white hot. The Juggernaut didn't even acknowledge her attack whatsoever. --Thor #412

He hit Captain Britain with such force the Excalibur leader skidded away creating nearly a mile long groove in the ground with his body. --Excalibur #3

Trapped in 40-foot cocoon of solid steel,The Juggernaut exploded out in violent fashion by flexing his arms. --Thor #412

Stripped to only a fraction of his strength,he still is strong enough to easily choke Rogue while she fought to free herself with one hand while fending off Colossus with the other. --Marvel Team-Up #150(it was stated in the Marvel Handbook that both Tom and Juggernaut actually had less than a half of The Juggernaut's power as they had assumed)

Collapsed an entire skyscraper(possibly a World Trade Center tower) with a ram of his shoulder. --Spider-Man #16

Engaging fellow exemplar Stonecuter in a toe-to-toe slugfest,the punches they traded to one another caused earthquakes and was said to be the greatest fury ever unleashed on Earth. --Juggernaut:Eighth Day

On two separate occasions when lifted from the ground and held in midair by Jean Grey,The Juggernaut proves unstoppable by continuing to advance toward her irregardless despite having no physical footholds or leverage.

Having magically been stripped of all of his flesh,The Juggernaut still stood before his enemy to complete the battle as merely a skeleton. --Juggernaut OneShot

The Juggernaut walked right through a stream of Chamber's full power bio energy blast. Despite Chamber exerting so much effort into it he fell unconscious in the attempt. --Generation-X #61

Facing the Stranger who'd grown to about 50 feet tall,The Juggernaut lept up and toppled him with one punch --X-Men Forever #6

Took a direct blast from the new-look Cyclops that was described by him as being able to "rip a small planet in half" with a smile as The Juggernaut's only reaction. --Cyclops #1

Rendered the entire team of Generation-X,Banshee,and Emma Frost unconscious simply by clapping his hands together. --Generation-X #61

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Originally posted by Sentry
Juggs is already part of the New Excalibur team:

By the way, Juggs kicks a$$!!! Unstoppable:

Overpowering Thor seems to be a good strength guage.

Juggernaut kicks ass!!! Back to the topic, Black Bolt wins!

Everyone knows BB is the man, hes Ko'd Glads and The Hulk, he isnt class 100 strength but he doesnt need it, because his voice is in excess of class 1000

Dude, Juggs is the man...

Originally posted by King KAM
Everyone knows BB is the man, hes Ko'd Glads and The Hulk, he isnt class 100 strength but he doesnt need it, because his voice is in excess of class 1000

BB has never met Galactus. He DOES routinely make Hulk his b*tch, though.

Originally posted by Khellendros
BB has never met Galactus. He DOES routinely make Hulk his b*tch, though.

For a man with almost full stat Galactus does get his ass whipped alot...

what issues has BB fought hulk in?? and gladiator...???? has he fought thor at all?

Ya know I just remembered that Superman had a sonic voice blast power what ever happened to that?

Originally posted by KillAll
what issues has BB fought hulk in?? and gladiator...???? has he fought thor at all?

He fought Thor and Thor nearly killed him.

Originally posted by KillAll
what issues has BB fought hulk in?? and gladiator...???? has he fought thor at all?

Not sure on all the issues, but I can post scans of some Hulk fights. He fought Thor and was doing pretty well until some PIS crap about Thor hitting his antenna and that causing him extreme pain by throwing his powers out fo whack. It's dumb, because the antenna isn't a key part of his powers, it just helps him focus his energies. All losing the antenna should do is make it so that he has to work a bit harder to use his powers.

Okay, here's the first fight I have between Hulk and Black Bolt.

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