Snape's Betrayal

Started by Ushgarak2 pages

REALLY cannot see most of that being the case, AA!

And where are these 'most of her fans'? I have barely found anyone who thinks it is that straightforward. If that is the twist it is a cumbersome and lame one.

Snape is probably a conflicted villain afflicted by some guilt, but clearly not good. The author has said as much and added that he is more culpable than Voldemort because his development was less unremittingly harsh, therefore his evil actions are done by moral choice (by implication Voldemort is simply an amoral being).

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Not wanting to sound silly but how does he do that without his wand?

I had to be drunk or overworked the day I concocted that 😆

Originally posted by rick01666
i think he is still good maybe i agree the look of hatred was to do with the task he had to do also when harry cathes up to him near hagrids and keeps trying to course him he tills him " no unforgiveable couses for u harry not untill u learn to keep ur mouth shut and ur mind closed" advise?????????

yes, indeed Snape looks very "Educating" here, but...

if it was all a plan.... that DD supported... and god I hope it isn't...

why would Snape give tips on how to cast Unforgivables?
this is truly a dark-art advice...

(and to the one who got upset that "snapes betrayal" was a spoiler... it's in chapter 2 anyway...)

(why didn't dumbledore spill the poison in the cave?!?!)

i think snape was in love with lily potter and so when he found out she along with james were killed because of the info he passed to voldermort, he was so upset with himself and his actions that he joined dumbledore. ithink that dumbledore was actually dying during book 6 (something to do with his finger) and new it and decided that the best way for himself to die was for snape to kill him. that way he would be fully accepted by voldermort and voldermort would trust him with anything (possibly his horcruxs). It was also said in the book that they had been argueing not long before dumbledore died and dumbledore was probably persuading him to kill him. Also when dumbledore was pleading to snape it was probably a plead for snape to kill him and not to save him. also when hatty calls snape a coward snape gets angry and rightly he should as he had to be brave and far from a coward to kill dumbledore.

Originally posted by Melatonin
(and to the one who got upset that "snapes betrayal" was a spoiler... it's in chapter 2 anyway...)

(why didn't dumbledore spill the poison in the cave?!?!)

Dumbledore couldn't spill it... It was magic - that's the point!

But yes, I don't believe Snape is evil - while not helping Harry, he may simply refuse to help Voldemort when the time comes.

Exactly! Good points there 🙂
Both dd and snape were probably chatting to each other through the're minds 🙂 and the whole unbreakable vow thing - thats a brilliant idea!
I was thinking though - snape is a real clever guy. The whole book is about the half blood prince, snape. The book shows the mans genuis, could snape outsmart dumbledore?? The potions book was invented by JK to show Snapes brilliance at magic - and the magic was evil. JK is trying to make us see how evil snape is!
However, i believe snape is a good guy. Although JK is forcing us to believe hes a bad guy, Shes also hinting he's actually good!

shes making us believe that so when we find out that hes good it will be an even bigger surprise.

Snape killing Dumbledore looked more like a mercy killing (Dumbledore sounded like he was begging for it). There was no sense in having Snape and him getting killed by the Death Eaters and junior (Draco).

We're often seeing Harry voice out against Snape and we know how bias Harry can be, despite what Snape has shown (i.e. helped Lupin momentary by making him potions, came to Dumbledore's aid during one of the Horticrux, avoiding hurting Harry, etc.).

Snape appears to be still good.

Originally posted by weegie
The book shows the mans genuis, could snape outsmart dumbledore?? The potions book was invented by JK to show Snapes brilliance at magic - and the magic was evil. JK is trying to make us see how evil snape is!

Actually, I thought the book was there to show how Harry trusted the book and defended it ALTHOUGH it was rather obvious it has dark power,
and the way Harry trusted the book is quite Paralelle to DD trusing Snape.

I think it's mentioned.

Originally posted by birthoftheforce
shes making us believe that so when we find out that hes good it will be an even bigger surprise.

Except that that wouldn't be even a tiny surprise now, would it? That is in fact the more OBVIOUS development at this point. The surprise is if he is evil.

I see both sides on this. She could surprise us though with him being good Ush....b/c the surprise could end up being why DD trusts him. We don't know for sure...just have some really good guesses. We could all be off and it'd be something that would blow us out of the water.

IF HE DID MAKRE A VOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN (sorry 4 caps) 2 prove to dumbledore in every way that he is good and doi everything dumbledore asks...........and werent him n dumbledore arguing in the woods about something?what was that about?