The source + TOAA versus Phoenix force

Originally posted by Richrf
Phoenix is ranked lower but is it less powerful?

I need some clarification about whether PF is all of God's power or just a fraction.

Also If phoenix is just part of an entity, why not remove it completely instead of ranking it seperately? I'm just wondering btw.

Its been a long and hard battle to get people to realise just what phoenix is. Ive got her from Galactus level to an aspect of TOAA and im proud of that achievement. Im not going to push my luck. People have the retcon period (86 -02) embedded in their heads and refuse to open their minds to whats in the comics.

Its ranked seperately because its an aspect of TOAA a different side of TOAA just like you have the holy trinity or in DC you have Presence, The Source and the Word all together those things make Dc's god but they all have different roles and importance levels.

The Phoenix force is the power source of creation. It is gods creation aspect. In terms of its DC equivalents it seems to be both the source and the word (judging from New Xmen 154)

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its been a long and hard battle to get people to realise just what phoenix is. Ive got her from Galactus level to an aspect of TOAA and im proud of that achievement. Im not going to push my luck. People have the retcon period (86 -02) embedded in their heads and refuse to open their minds to whats in the comics.

Its ranked seperately because its an aspect of TOAA a different side of TOAA just like you have the holy trinity or in DC you have Presence, The Source and the Word all together those things make Dc's god but they all have different roles and importance levels.

The Phoenix force is the power source of creation. It is gods creation aspect. In terms of its DC equivalents it seems to be both the source and the word (judging from New Xmen 154)

Not exactly how I see it 🙄

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Not exactly how I see it 🙄

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Not exactly how I see it 🙄

What is your definition of the Word in Dc?

Explain your interpretaion of it and i'll explain myself. Otherwise whether you agree or not is of no consequence. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]Its been a long and hard battle to get people to realise just what phoenix is. Ive got her from Galactus level to an aspect of TOAA and im proud of that achievement. Im not going to push my luck.

Congrats on your great achievement. Why do you think is there such a resistance? Beyond the retcon issue. Is it because people don't read the comics you do? Or is it because even for those who have, they disagree because what you stated is speculation?

BTW You didn't really answer my question GS about whether PF is all of God's power.

What do you mean by "pushing your luck"? Push your luck, and tell me what you want to assert.

Originally posted by Richrf
Congrats on your great achievement. Why do you think is there such a resistance? Beyond the retcon issue. Is it because people don't read the comics you do? Or is it because even for those who have, they disagree because what you stated is speculation?

BTW You didn't really answer my question GS about whether PF is all of God's power.

What do you mean by "pushing your luck"? Push your luck, and tell me what you want to assert.

I like you 🙂

Originally posted by Richrf
Why do you think is there such a resistance?

Originally posted by Richrf
Congrats on your great achievement. Why do you think is there such a resistance? Beyond the retcon issue. Is it because people don't read the comics you do? Or is it because even for those who have, they disagree because what you stated is speculation?

BTW You didn't really answer my question GS about whether PF is all of God's power.

What do you mean by "pushing your luck"? Push your luck, and tell me what you want to assert.

Phoenix is but one aspect of TOAA so no its not more powerful. I just find it strange to weigh up the TOAA against a part of himself.

By push my luck i mean i cant suddenly say oh Phoenix shouldnt be ranked seperately its an aspect of TOAA because then there could be a backlash with people saying fanboy this and fanboy that despite the comics showing otherwise.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I like you 🙂

Be very afraid Rich 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix is but one aspect of TOAA so no its not more powerful. I just find it strange to weigh up the TOAA against a part of himself.

By push my luck i mean i cant suddenly say oh Phoenix shouldnt be ranked seperately its an aspect of TOAA because then there could be a backlash with people saying fanboy this and fanboy that despite the comics showing otherwise.

hmmmmmm🙂 hilarious 😂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because people don't like to hear what they've already made their minds up on.

ironic? 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
hmmmmmm🙂 hilarious 😂

Whats wrong with that example. If i said that would that not happen?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
hmmmmmm🙂 hilarious 😂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
ironic? 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's funny that GS is saying that "the word" cannot beat "god"?

Is he , he contadicts himself so much with "his" theories I lose track 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's why we are at an impass.

Impasse

even 🙂 as a dyslexic I should not do that but i'm proud of the few words I can spell 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Is he , he contadicts himself so much with "his" theories I lose track 🙂

What contradictions?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Impasse

even 🙂 as a dyslexic I should not do that but i'm proud of the few words I can spell 🙂

You're an exemplary example. 🙂

[QUOTE=4818002]Originally posted by Creshosk
[B]What contradictions?]

Just check out the Rune Thor thread to see about a million 🙂

You're dyslexic?

Like Einstien words are my Kryptonite, at least spelling is 😕

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Just check out the Rune Thor thread to see about a million 🙂

Which one?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which one?

Id like to know as well.

I cant see where i have but point them out Whirly and id happily clarify