Originally posted by james2099
Plain writing....http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladjx4.jpg
Originally posted by iceman24567
Lulz using hyperbole as a strength feat get that crap out of here 😐
Not only that, but the funny thing is what comic that scan comes from. Lulz.
Anyway, WW wins.
Originally posted by Draco69
Third issue of Wonder Woman, Post-Crisis. Diana needed a publicist to further her mission of peace. Thus she was dubbed 'Wonder Woman' by the press and had several TV/magazines interviews discussing where she was from, who she was and more specifically what about her golden lasso.In fact, talking about her lasso and it's ability to compel people to tell the truth on national television was what prompted her first encounter with Post-Crisis Cheetah.
Cheetah would have never gone after Diana if she had spoken about it and showcased on TV.
No, you're using one issue of Identity Crisis which contradicts about twenty years and about 100 issues of Post-Crisis Wonder Woman history.
In her first appearance to the public, she spoke about the lasso's abilities.
It's no secret to the world because that was her mission (and the significance of her lasso) to be an ambassador of peace. And in order to do so, she was extremely open about herself and didn't take a secret identity unlike other superheroes.
What the public doesn't really necessarily believe in the lasso is that it really makes people tell the truth or that it's really unbreakable. They're skeptical about that.
Oh and Diana authored a best-selling book about her lasso, history and message of peace during Rucka's run.
So, yeah everybody knows about it.
What you want is Sue to have some method of winning. Badabing says speedblitz is on and he also said Diana knows about her forcefields.
Now you're on your last leg trying to argue your way around the ruling made by Badabing since you don't like it.
Wait, so Marvel Earth knows the rest of the Fantastic Four's powers....but not Sue's. Because they can't see her forcefields? That's your arguement?
Wow. Than I guess Marvel Earth's general population doesn't know that Emma Frost is a telepath. Because they can't see her telepathy in action. They obviously don't know that Jean Grey is a telekinetic because they can't see her forcefields or telekinesis either. And what's to prove Quicksilver really has superspeed? They can't see him move that fast since he may as well be invisible.
And what's to prove Sue Storm really turns invisible? May she just teleports since she appears and reappears in another place.
And all those times she was shown floating in midair or having a laser beam bounce off some kind of barrier in the middle of Time Square? Well, those can't be forcefields, obviously?
Sorry, that's not gonna work. Of course, Marvel Earth knows about Sue's forcefields. Don't be silly.
Your only arguement is that if they can't see her forcefields, than the public must not know they exist despite the fact that they're world-wide celebrities, have had hundred of battles in full view of the public in NYC, and even a have Fantastic Four museum in their own damn headquarters.
If the rules of KMC, by your drastic revision, would say that the only way 'general knowledge' can pertain to another character of another universe than Flash wouldn't know about Professor Xavier's telepathy if they fight on KMC. Because telepathy isn't visible to the naked eye. And Colossus wouldn't know about Zatanna's magic. Because who's to say that's really magic and not really just some fancy matter manipulation according to the naked eye?
Sorry, but WW knows about the forcefields....
Athena be praised 😖mart:
Originally posted by james2099Don't play with me loser of posts .I"m not the one. I used the artist depiction in conjuction with proof from other appearances to back up my assesment of wondy's hand speed. Now if you want me to come in this thread and totally embarrass you again I will. Gladiator destroyed a planet. We don't know how many punches it took. Since the panel showns him in a rage. He certainly didnt' one shot a planet. And I'm sorry, it takes far more power to move a planet or hold it's orbit than destroy it. The sun and the entire solar system hold's the earth's orbit. Try pushing against all of that power. To destroy the earth, it only takes a sufficiant asteriod. Now go hide your head in a hole you tool.
I'm going to pull a fangirl here.... Judging by the size of the wavy lines and how many pieces there were floating away... I would come to the conclusion that it was 10 times bigger than earth. 😆.( Spare me on that one iceman ) 😆
Originally posted by fangirl101The biggest loser is you... Shall i show you another poster making your posts look foolish?
Don't play with me loser of posts .I"m not the one. I used the artist depiction in conjuction with proof from other appearances to back up my assesment of wondy's hand speed. Now if you want me to come in this thread and totally embarrass you again I will. Gladiator destroyed a planet. We don't know how many punches it took. Since the panel showns him in a rage. He certainly didnt' one shot a planet. And I'm sorry, it takes far more power to move a planet or hold it's orbit than destroy it. The sun and the entire solar system hold's the earth's orbit. Try pushing against all of that power. To destroy the earth, it only takes a sufficiant asteriod. Now go hide your head in a hole you tool.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Don't play with me loser of posts .I"m not the one. I used the artist depiction in conjuction with proof from other appearances to back up my assesment of wondy's hand speed. Now if you want me to come in this thread and totally embarrass you again I will. Gladiator destroyed a planet. We don't know how many punches it took. Since the panel showns him in a rage. He certainly didnt' one shot a planet. And I'm sorry, it takes far more power to move a planet or hold it's orbit than destroy it. The sun and the entire solar system hold's the earth's orbit. Try pushing against all of that power. To destroy the earth, it only takes a sufficiant asteriod. Now go hide your head in a hole you tool.
It should amaze me that this is still being argued but having been back on the board for a bit now, it doesn't. This is a fight that by board rules (ie. feats and people fighting at optimal levels) is a complete and total curbstomp win for Wonder Woman. And yet it has gone on for a dozen pages.
I don't even say that out of any desire to see the FF lose. Hell, I've probably been reading at least 10+ issues of FF a week for the last several weeks and have been a fan since I was a kid. But they simply lose here. Now give Reed prep and assume he has whatever tech he comes up with already activated when the fight starts and its another story. But as is, WW just speed blitzes and overpowers the living hell out of them.
Originally posted by fangirl101You are the only person on this board that can tell how fast a person is moving be it flight speed or moving their hands and arms in a blurr. Where do you get your numbers from?? the guy who writes the book does not tell you how fast they are moving, yet you can? 😕 .. WW got punched from the sun to the earth at 80 times the speed of light?? How did you come to that conclusion? WW punches a guy with arms in a blur showing 5 arms, spiderman does the same thing only it shows 7 arms, yet WW is punching at light speed? WW can blitz at light speed you say? Show me a scan of her doing it? You cannot, yet you bring your ASSUMED movements and speed when the writer HIMSELF does not give a speed. You go even further than that. You then try to mix REAL LIFE MATH to a comicbook. 😮💨
stick to urself.
Originally posted by james2099You were already warned a few days ago. Stop the flame baiting and trolling.
I'm going to pull a fangirl here.... Judging by the size of the wavy lines and how many pieces there were floating away... I would come to the conclusion that it was 10 times bigger than earth. 😆.( Spare me on that one iceman ) 😆
Fangirl, use the ignore or stop with the flaming please, even if it's retaliation.
Raoul has already posted in this thread, so everybody should have taken that as a cue to be civil also. Any more trouble from this thread, it will be closed and warnings will be dealt along with possible bans.
Originally posted by james2099hah. U make urself look foolish. Wondy got punched from the sun to earth in an instant. It takes light 8 mins to reach earth from the sun. Do the math. Now as far as wondy moving her arms at c and greater I already pwned u. The shattered god pulled himself from the corners of the universe. In like two panels. How fast do u think they were going? Cuz u know u r so effing brilliant. Tell me. And I never said wondy punched anyone at c with definity.but anyone with half a brain can see that she can move any part of her body at c given her feats.
You are the only person on this board that can tell how fast a person is moving be it flight speed or moving their hands and arms in a blurr. Where do you get your numbers from?? the guy who writes the book does not tell you how fast they are moving, yet you can? 😕 .. WW got punched from the sun to the earth at 80 times the speed of light?? How did you come to that conclusion? WW punches a guy with arms in a blur showing 5 arms, spiderman does the same thing only it shows 7 arms, yet WW is punching at light speed? WW can blitz at light speed you say? Show me a scan of her doing it? You cannot, yet you bring your ASSUMED movements and speed when the writer HIMSELF does not give a speed. You go even further than that. You then try to mix REAL LIFE MATH to a comicbook. 😮💨
Originally posted by fangirl101Tell me how fast the shattered God pieces were moving to come CLEAR ACROSS THE UNIVERSE IN 2 PANELS?? Millions of times the speed of light?? WW BLOCKED THOUSANDS OF THEM.. HA HA HA HA HA 😆 . Strange how you OWN YOURSELF, yet think you make any sense at all. Ghost numbers 😆
hah. U make urself look foolish. Wondy got punched from the sun to earth in an instant. It takes light 8 mins to reach earth from the sun. Do the math. Now as far as wondy moving her arms at c and greater I already pwned u. The shattered god pulled himself from the corners of the universe. In like two panels. How fast do u think they were going? Cuz u know u r so effing brilliant. Tell me. And I never said wondy punched anyone at c with definity.but anyone with half a brain can see that she can move any part of her body at c given her feats.
Originally posted by BadabingOk.
You were already warned a few days ago. Stop the flame baiting and trolling.Fangirl, use the ignore or stop with the flaming please, even if it's retaliation.
Raoul has already posted in this thread, so everybody should have taken that as a cue to be civil also. Any more trouble from this thread, it will be closed and warnings will be dealt along with possible bans.
Originally posted by james2099
Tell me how fast the shattered God pieces were moving to come CLEAR ACROSS THE UNIVERSE IN 2 PANELS?? Millions of times the speed of light?? WW BLOCKED THOUSANDS OF THEM.. HA HA HA HA HA 😆 . Strange how you OWN YOURSELF, yet think you make any sense at all. Ghost numbers 😆
To be honest, I think the Shattered God feat is out there even for Wonder Woman. In other words, to the best of my knowledge, its one of a kind and way beyond her normal speed.
However, on the flipside, she has been shown to be fast enough to react to speedforce characters on enough occasions that I consider those feats to be simply high-end feats but valid. She had to move lightspeed to get into the speedforce. And yes I know that's flight speed. But once there, she was interacting with and attacking speedforce level characters.
From what I've read and seen, her high-end combat speed is around light speed. No, she doesn't do that all the time. But under the rules as they currently exist, I think she has done it easily enough times that its valid.
