Hulk vs Titanus..3 punches and Hulk Lost?

Started by leonidas8 pages

<<Mrrungo-Mu was a base high class 100, but through his draining abilities he could hype himself up to ridiculous levels, and the generator on his worldship funneled the power of billions upon billions of beings into him, putting him near Galactus level. In the story, a hungry Galactus even avoided confrontation with him. He had energy attacks and teleportation abilities also.>>

i have that hardcover. uh, i'd say galactus + level guys are discounted for this discussion . . .

murungo-mu? damn, talk about reaching . . .

and yeah, if he had weapons we're not counting him for this discussion, cresh. and that hard knocks fight was friggin' CLASSIC!

Mu did knock Hulk the **** out with one punch though...

Maybe 3 punches is more acceptable. 😂

<<Mu did knock Hulk the **** out with one punch though...>.

actually . . .

it wasn't a punch. 🙂 he grabbed hulk and namor simultaneously then sort of . . . drove their heads together while at the same time blasting them with cosmic power. but your right - he DID knock the hulk the **** out.

ps-you know of course that that was the GRAY hulk . . . right . . .?

😄

It could be Drax.

Is/Does Drax....
Green? Yep
Stronger than Hulk? Yep
Charges his hands? Yep
Have a ****ed up chin? Yup.
Getting a new series? Yup.
Had his brain restored? Yup.
Lost his memory? Yep.

And I hear he's getting a series next few months.
The solicits say:
"h... And you think you know Drax? Big, green and not all that bright; is that the Drax you're thinking about? You don't know Drax! The re-imagining of Drax The Destroyer begins here!"

Originally posted by long pig
It could be Drax.

Is/Does Drax....
Green? Yep
Stronger than Hulk? Yep
Charges his hands? Yep
Have a ****ed up chin? Yup.
Getting a new series? Yup.
Had his brain restored? Yup.
Lost his memory? Yep.

And I hear he's getting a series next few months.
The solicits say:
"h... And you think you know Drax? Big, green and not all that bright; is that the Drax you're thinking about? You don't know Drax! The re-imagining of Drax The Destroyer begins here!"

hmmm . . . 😖hifty:

but i was under the impression that 'smart drax' IS NOT as strong as 'dumb drax'. unless something has changed recently . . . 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
hmmm . . . 😖hifty:

but i was under the impression that 'smart drax' IS NOT as strong as 'dumb drax'. unless something has changed recently . . . 😕

What is it with you and logic? God....you make me so mad! 😠

It's a clone hybrid of Thanos and Drax?!

WHO CARES?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! 😠

whatever it was..WHOMEVER HE IS....IT ****ING.....HAPPENED....

until we have more info on who he is and what he is..we can't say what it was or wasn't (pis, cis) either way, so until this all gets resolved....there's no point in debating this crap cause it's going to presumably take months to get all the facts in, you guys are just wasting your damned time...

now, leonidas I understand where you're coming from, and I tend to agree..but that's the hero formula man...hero faces obstacle...hero grows to overcome obstacle... it's not that you don't have a point, it's just that they have to establish the character in SOME way to show what kind of level he's at....and like I said..assuming he's bosting class 100 strenth a kick to the balls isn't going to feel good to ANYONE..not even hulk....

so lets all just take a breath, take a step back, and wait for the evidence to present itself before us before we make judgements...

what do we know?...hulk's been knocked out....not many times..but it's happened...this guy put him down in 3 hits...so this guys obviously one bad motha ****a..and that's really all we can say about it thus far...

just give it time.

Originally posted by jinzin
WHO CARES?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! 😠

whatever it was..WHOMEVER HE IS....IT ****ING.....HAPPENED....

until we have more info on wo he is and what he is..we can't say what it was or wasn't (pis, cis) either way, so until this all gets resolved....there's no point in debating this crap cause it's going to presumably take months to get all the facts in, you guys are just wasting your damned time...

now, leonidas I understand where you're coming from, and I tend to agree..but that's the hero formula man...hero faces obstacle...hero grows to overcome obstacle... it's not that you don't have a point, it's just that they have to establish the character in SOME way to show what kind of level he's at....and like I said..assuming he's bosting class 100 strenth a kick to the balls isn't going to feel good to ANYONE..not even hulk....

so lets all just take a breath, take a step back, and wait foe the evidence to present itself before us before we make judgements...

what do we know...hulk's been knocked out....not many times..but it's happened...this guy put him down in 3 hits...so this guys obviously one bad motha ****a..and that's really all we can say about it thus far...

just give it time.


🙁
I just like to sleuth....

sorry bro that wasn't really towards you...or anyone for that matter...I was just sayin... 😕

Ah, it's ok ol' chap.

Watson and myself are on the hunt!

-sleuths around-

Yes....could be....mayhaps.....AH!...mhm....

lol.

"abomination - beat him back in what, 1967? hulk has demolished him many, many times since. but that's 1."

Doesnt matter. He lost.

"namor - underwater, and i gave that one a long time ago. that's 2."

Another loss.

"madman - unless there was an extremely recent appearance, he fought grey and prof hulk, not savage. discounted."

My bad, it was actually the gray. Rage factor and all but not Savage. Correct.

"onslaught - you crack me up. hulk's task - bust the armor. hulk did so and released a huge burst of . . . ENERGY! did onslaught punch out hulk? no. but since he completed his task, i'll be more than happy to claim that as an actual VICTORY for hulk."

Hulks task was to defeat him. He didnt. They slugged it out. He got ko. He was down and the opponent wasent. And others had to deal with him later while Hulk was sleeping. Another loss.

"glob - reaching a bit, aren't we . . .? but all right, back in 121 (1966!)glob did beat hulk. in a more recent appearance, hulk got his revenge. (below.) but that's 3."

I dont care about the year. He lost against him.

"bi-beast - never beat hulk. tell me the issue or show a scan. "

Defenders vol. 2 #6-. In the only fight where he went physical iirc. Hulk attacks, Bbeast replies and punches him off the island. End of the tussle.

"ravage - this was more recent but certainly counts. course, he was based on hulk's own genetic makeup and hulk would quickly have gotten his revenge had the fight not been interrupted. but that's 4."

Indeed.

"destroyer - ?? you mean maestro? he fought prof. you mean asgard's destroyer when it was run BY maestro in #461? he didn't beat hulk either. "

Physically Destroyer was dominating. Hulk won in the end because Destroyer recgonized him the same soul he was innabitating. Hulk didnt managed to overpower him.

"hulk android - sure. that's 5."

yup.

"ironman - yep. i gave that one a long time ago as well. that's 6."

Yes.

Those are the ones going by memory. Sure in most of them he managed to win the second round. However he did got overpowered first with the regular conditions of being a Savage and with rage increasing strenght factor. You also have others i listed lke Paragon whom he couldnt do nothing against and of course the recent Titannus.

Or Wendigo when he needed someones help to overpower him as well.

And those wer by physicall means. Other means hes been ko more times.

The whole point? Hulk failing with his strenght has been done before more than once. And will happen again. So in final analysis lets wait to see who this guy turns out to be.

Well, to be fair, Oly.

Hulk has been massively upgraded to the point of obscenity.

Hell, pre-1990, Hulk couldn't breath under water or heal limbs or anything like he does now.

Seriously, this is honestly the only time Hulk has been k.o'd since his stupid massive upgrades.

But, unless it comes to show it was an energy punch (Which it looked like.) it means Savage CAN be K.O'd.....making the jug vs Hulk fight look even more better for ol' Cain.

actually current hulk can't breath under water either..that was a dream reality induced by nightmare 😉

Na, im not saying Hulk hasent been upgraded. He has. Im not saying either he never won against some of those in return. He did.

Im just and merely pointing out the fact he has physical loses. Not one or two or three only but more. Like everyone else.

And Savage can indeed be ko. It happened before. Some by force like the ones above mentioned, other times by other means.

I just dont call this one Pis yet simply because, so far for all we know its a new character. And new characters can be stronger than anyone the writter wants. They arent subjective to static rules.

<<WHO CARES?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
whatever it was..WHOMEVER HE IS....IT ****ING.....HAPPENED....
until we have more info on who he is and what he is..we can't say what it was or wasn't (pis, cis) either way, so until this all gets resolved....there's no point in debating this crap cause it's going to presumably take months to get all the facts in, you guys are just wasting your damned time...

now, leonidas I understand where you're coming from, and I tend to agree..but that's the hero formula man...hero faces obstacle...hero grows to overcome obstacle... it's not that you don't have a point, it's just that they have to establish the character in SOME way to show what kind of level he's at....and like I said..assuming he's bosting class 100 strenth a kick to the balls isn't going to feel good to ANYONE..not even hulk....

so lets all just take a breath, take a step back, and wait for the evidence to present itself before us before we make judgements...

what do we know?...hulk's been knocked out....not many times..but it's happened...this guy put him down in 3 hits...so this guys obviously one bad motha ****a..and that's really all we can say about it thus far...

just give it time.>>

all true. but this formula for introducing characters is just so damn old and worn out. let's show how powerful the new guy is - he ko's galactus. let's show how strong he is - let's ko hulk. it's happened a 1000 times in books. but you're right, perhaps there is a good reason for it. i'd say there is a 50/50 chance that the explanation turns out to be rational v PIS. hopefully it turns out for the best.

and yah, i probably overreacted a bit . . . 😮

Originally posted by illadelph12
I read that story. It was called "The Enslavers".

There was this alien dictator dude named "Mrrungo-Mu":

who went around enslaving planet after planet, and he was a kind of psionic vampire that could take on the strength of all the people he had enslaved, as well as developing this power plant that funneled the power of the people he enslaved into his soldiers to enhance their powers, and he had enslaved billions upon billions upon billions of people, including superpowered alien races. Anyway, when he comes to Earth he sends out scouts to capture the Earth's superheroes before he starts his full on invasion of the planet (remove the only possible threats on Earth), and all the heavy hitters; Thing, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus, Namor, Hulk, Wolverine (lol, [B]Wolverine), etc. were gathered together in front of him in shackles. He spoke to them about submitting to his will and they wouldn't have to suffer and then Thing says something to the tune of "You wouldn't be all big and bad if we weren't handcuffed". Dude raises his hand and the shackles disappear. The heroes are stunned for a sec, then Logan being the badass he's supposed to be charges this dude and does a lunging slash at his face. The guy didn't even defend himself and Logan's claws had no effect whatsoever. He then back hands Logan and knocks him out cold. After seeing that Thing, Thor, She-Hulk, Colossus and Doc Samson drop some serious bombs on the guy to no effect, and he back hands all of them with one wave of the arm and drops all of them (one blow dropped all 5). The last 2 standing are Hulk and Namor and they cut loose on the guy, and he says "Enough!!!!" and knocks Namor across the room with an uppercut before gut checking Hulk, then he psionically sapped Hulk's spirit before having his guards take the heroes away to the slave pens on his ship.

This is also the story where it's shown that Silver Surfer can endow his powers upon others and make them into a Silver Surfer. He gives half of his power to an Earth scientist named Earl Weygand so that he can attack the alien leaders ship while Surfer throws down with him, and Surfer is able to hold out just long enough against the guy for the "Science Surfer" to take out the guys slave pen reactors on his ship by throwing himself into there shields. Upon death the Power Cosmic Surfer gave to the scientist returns to him and, at full power, he sends a pinpoint blast from Earth to Mu's slave ship generator and blows it up, then he beats the living shit out of the dude that dropped Thor, Hulk, Namor, She-Hulk, Thing, Colossus, Doc Samson and Wolverine (😂, Wolverine) with one blow apiece.

Mrrungo-Mu was a base high class 100, but through his draining abilities he could hype himself up to ridiculous levels, and the generator on his worldship funneled the power of billions upon billions of beings into him, putting him near Galactus level. In the story, a hungry Galactus even avoided confrontation with him. He had energy attacks and teleportation abilities also. [/B]

What issue was that ?

Wolverine as a heavy hitter? lol Marvel.........

Did Hercules fought in that one? He appeared in the end with all the others, so ill take he had his chance as well.

Or like against Champion, Marvel didnt took him as a " heavy hitter "

Unlike eh Wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually current hulk can't breath under water either..that was a dream reality induced by nightmare 😉

No, he can.
Over the years, The Hulk's body has developed a gland that allows him to breath fluids. This is also handy in another way, since it allows The Hulk's lungs to be filled with fluids when he is under water, thus avoiding decompression and nitrogen narcosis.
He evolved it in issue #77.

Hulk is being shown as the ultimate evolver as seen in the end.