With Wine There is Much Truth

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In DK we have a saying that tranlastes to something like "From children and the drunk you'll hear the truth."

Sure, that saying up there is correct. Our "filters" evaporate the more entoxicated we get. Someone we stop caring about consequences.

Have YOU never woken up after a night on the town with more than your share of alcohol, and thought "Oh, sh*t! I did NOT say THAT... Did I? I did. Kill me now."?

Originally posted by debbiejo
An old Italian saying is IN VINO VERITAS....With wine there is much truth....How true DO YOU think that saying is?
😆 ...so true 😮

Originally posted by debbiejo
An old Italian saying is IN VINO VERITAS....With wine there is much truth....How true DO YOU think that saying is?

''Sober man's thoughts are rtunken man's words'' ✅

I do tell the absolute and most brutal truths when Im drunk...every time.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Saying is Italian which is derived from Latin....but I think there can be much truth in letting your guard down...And what's so bad about that...Isn't truth better than deception, and lies..false hood..mislead words....Kinda makes head games go away...don't you think? I think the Italians were on to something..

Stop attributing the saying to a nowadays people. The italians have nothing to do with it. It was initially a greek saying, but its most often met and known version is the latin one. A man named Alceus, a greek poet is said to have uttered it first. He lived around 600 BC. Back then, people that were suspected of having commited crimes were given strong wines in large clay dishes, which led them to get drunk and confess a lot quicker. From this, Alceus came up with the saying. When people drink, they start talking a lot, revealing secrets, personal things, etc. The germans used the quote "Die Wahrheit ist im Wein", that german poet Friderich Ruckert used in Vierzeilen. He however gave it a more satyrical hue.

"Die Wahrheit ist im Wein;
Das heiBt; In unsern Tagen,
MuB einer betrunken sein,
Um Lust zu haben, die Wahrheit zu sagen."

(Extremely rough translation: Truth is in wine/That means that in our time/Someone must be drunk/In order to feel like saying the truth).

The Latin version remains the same as the greek one.

Please stop calling it italian. Thank you.

~wickerman~

Whooo....aren't we feisty....Well...All I know, is my grandmother was full Italian right from the boat...and she used to say this.....Of course she attended churches in the US that spoke Latin...So maybe she would combine Latin and Italian..... If I was wrong, I'm wrong...maybe it's Latin....Grab ahold of our self man!! 😕

All I'm trying to say is.."When people drink, are they more honest." 😉

Originally posted by debbiejo
Whooo....aren't we feisty....Well...All I know, is my grandmother was full Italian right from the boat...and she used to say this.....Of course she attended churches in the US that spoke Latin...So maybe she would combine Latin and Italian..... If I was wrong, I'm wrong...maybe it's Latin....Grab ahold of our self man!! 😕

All I'm trying to say is.."When people drink, are they more honest." 😉

WELL I HAD SOME BEER SO I'M BEING HONEST DAMMIT!!!!!!! 😂

yeah, sorry for the little outburst, but that's prolly it, her mixing the Latin from Mass, and all. And even if it's the same language, i was just saying the Latins didn't make up the saying, and neither did the italians, which are mostly descendants of the romans, so......yeah..... 😕

An italian saying for example is a quote from Dante Aligheri's "Divine Comedy" (Divina Commedia) "Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate!" (Leave all hope, you that enter!), the words written on the gates of Hell.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by WindDancer
When it comes to wine I prefer California Zinfandel. Better taste. 😎

But is true....high alcohol levels will make you say things...even personal matters. 😮

californian Wine is excellent, from what I know the original Frence grapes were exported there and due to the better climate etc they produce better wine. could be wrong of course.

Red wine is amazing, mellow relaxing and yep the truth comes out after a few bottles.