Well, could you really say the God from Preacher was truly God? He had an equal in Jesse Custer with Genesis, and by the very nature of his omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence, he should have been an absolute, while everything, anything, should not, in comparison, have been absolute. He was also very humanized, very anthropomorphic; to put it simply, he was a vain, petty, twit, who could not handle his burden. He wanted to experience his own creation, but, by the nature of his being, by his possession of infinite insight and awareness of all things at all times, should he not have already known what the experience was? Did he not already know what the experience was, what it felt like to experience the experience, what the experience was like; did he not already know the experience? After all, the experience of creation was, quite simply, out of his reaches, and the only was towards reaching it was to take on a physical or ephemeral form, and thereby risk harm. Yet, he is God; to use a tired, worn phraseology, impossible is nothing, but, in this case, it is quite literal. God defines the rules of existence, the laws that govern his creation; as a member of an order infinitely beyond such, should he not have been, by being God, been beyond the experience of the experience? And even if he was not able to fully comprehend the nature of his work, could he not have, at the dawn of time, by his power, removed that mental blockade, by way of his being God? If he was too idiotic to realize such a thing, as he seemed to be, would he not have realized his feeble-mindedness, and remedied it? The sheer simplicity of God defies description, as a temporal being, much less as an everlasting, celestial, almighty being. Where he should have been beatific, he was discontent. Where he should have been all-knowing, he was ignorant. Where he should have been all-powerful, he was helpless. Where he should have been supreme, he was least. Where he should have been God, he was man. If he could do all, see all, understand all, and be all, could he really have been such a uninspiring being, so as that, when he was confronted with a bump in the road, he resorted to childish tactics that got him cast into oblivion and left a murderer in the seat of God? He should have been the ideal of good, incapable of evil, of sin; yet, when the time came for him to rise up to the challenge, his true colors were revealed, and instead of being humane, he was human. He acted like a buffoon, a fool, and he did not even create his own cosmos. And, while the point could be argued that the entire point of the comic was to illustrate the foibles of life, the simple fact was that he, God, was characterized. A being that should defy all boundaries, all descriptions, and names; an ineffable, indivisible, inscrutable being was characterized. The worst part is, the characterization was not even in a favorable light, not portraying him as a sage, perspicacious, effulgent, in a word, godly, character, but, instead, as a imbecilic, infantile, petulant mortal. IMO, his divinity should be cast in doubt, due to his dubious actions, which consisted of being scared, even though fear is one of the concepts he created, being fooled, even though everything should have been known to him, being killed, even though he transcends all times and all spaces, being oblivious, even though he should have been cognizant of all, being forced into taking action, and subsequently failing, even though his actions and rulings should be irrefutable and insurmountable, save by himself, and being typified, even though he is God. Instead of portraying him as God, they portrayed him as a god, who was not in possession of omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence, but was, instead, merely a hominid creature in possession of more power than humanity, and, when confronted by his Word, revealed that he was a true coward. Not to mention, these are only the in-character reasons, with the light of God being far more dimmed when you examine the motive of the writer, and the purpose he wrote Preacher for. It throws quotes from the Bible that have been taken out of context in the faces of Christians, with the most obvious being that God, instead of possessing different facets of himself, such as the Trinity, is instead rivaled by the things that include his name in it. The blatant satirical insinuations seem to transform it from a well-written, thought-inspiring comic, to a hate-fest that tramples on the beliefs of a large slice of the population of this world, in addition to turning God from everything, into nothing. So, IMO only, the Presence would win, because, unlike the Preacher God, he seems to truly be a God.
Originally posted by Hulking Hurler
Well, could you really say the God from Preacher was truly God? He had an equal in Jesse Custer with Genesis, and by the very nature of his omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence, he should have been an absolute, while everything, anything, should not, in comparison, have been absolute. He was also very humanized, very anthropomorphic; to put it simply, he was a vain, petty, twit, who could not handle his burden. He wanted to experience his own creation, but, by the nature of his being, by his possession of infinite insight and awareness of all things at all times, should he not have already known what the experience was? Did he not already know what the experience was, what it felt like to experience the experience, what the experience was like; did he not already know the experience? After all, the experience of creation was, quite simply, out of his reaches, and the only was towards reaching it was to take on a physical or ephemeral form, and thereby risk harm. Yet, he is God; to use a tired, worn phraseology, impossible is nothing, but, in this case, it is quite literal. God defines the rules of existence, the laws that govern his creation; as a member of an order infinitely beyond such, should he not have been, by being God, been beyond the experience of the experience? And even if he was not able to fully comprehend the nature of his work, could he not have, at the dawn of time, by his power, removed that mental blockade, by way of his being God? If he was too idiotic to realize such a thing, as he seemed to be, would he not have realized his feeble-mindedness, and remedied it? The sheer simplicity of God defies description, as a temporal being, much less as an everlasting, celestial, almighty being. Where he should have been beatific, he was discontent. Where he should have been all-knowing, he was ignorant. Where he should have been all-powerful, he was helpless. Where he should have been supreme, he was least. Where he should have been God, he was man. If he could do all, see all, understand all, and be all, could he really have been such a uninspiring being, so as that, when he was confronted with a bump in the road, he resorted to childish tactics that got him cast into oblivion and left a murderer in the seat of God? He should have been the ideal of good, incapable of evil, of sin; yet, when the time came for him to rise up to the challenge, his true colors were revealed, and instead of being humane, he was human. He acted like a buffoon, a fool, and he did not even create his own cosmos. And, while the point could be argued that the entire point of the comic was to illustrate the foibles of life, the simple fact was that he, God, was characterized. A being that should defy all boundaries, all descriptions, and names; an ineffable, indivisible, inscrutable being was characterized. The worst part is, the characterization was not even in a favorable light, not portraying him as a sage, perspicacious, effulgent, in a word, godly, character, but, instead, as a imbecilic, infantile, petulant mortal. IMO, his divinity should be cast in doubt, due to his dubious actions, which consisted of being scared, even though fear is one of the concepts he created, being fooled, even though everything should have been known to him, being killed, even though he transcends all times and all spaces, being oblivious, even though he should have been cognizant of all, being forced into taking action, and subsequently failing, even though his actions and rulings should be irrefutable and insurmountable, save by himself, and being typified, even though he is God. Instead of portraying him as God, they portrayed him as a god, who was not in possession of omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence, but was, instead, merely a hominid creature in possession of more power than humanity, and, when confronted by his Word, revealed that he was a true coward. Not to mention, these are only the in-character reasons, with the light of God being far more dimmed when you examine the motive of the writer, and the purpose he wrote Preacher for. It throws quotes from the Bible that have been taken out of context in the faces of Christians, with the most obvious being that God, instead of possessing different facets of himself, such as the Trinity, is instead rivaled by the things that include his name in it. The blatant satirical insinuations seem to transform it from a well-written, thought-inspiring comic, to a hate-fest that tramples on the beliefs of a large slice of the population of this world, in addition to turning God from everything, into nothing. So, IMO only, the Presence would win, because, unlike the Preacher God, he seems to truly be a God.
You certainly are entitled to your opinion, and I am sorry the Preacher offended you. I must ask you do you think its OK to satirise religion?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wow, I knew someone would say that the one was less powerful, but I didn't quite expect that.Pointing out the things that make it satire, but not really in such a way to make the satire understood. I have to admire the passion that was put into that though. . .
Passion indeed, The Preacher is on a lot of hate lists from Christian Groups on the Web and it alon with a number of comics has been called Satanic by some.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Passion indeed, The Preacher is on a lot of hate lists from Christian Groups on the Web and it alon with a number of comics has been called Satanic by some.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
You certainly are entitled to your opinion, and I am sorry the Preacher offended you. I must ask you do you think its OK to satirise religion?
Oh.
And Custer for the Win. If God would actually HIDE from Custer, I'm thinkin the Presence would as well.
Originally posted by BstrdManBut if it was accurate it wouldn't be satire.
Heh. Who's to say that isn't an accurate portrayal of God? Satire or not, I think it hits closer to home than they'd like to believe.
Originally posted by BstrdManCuster?
Oh.
And Custer for the Win. If God would actually HIDE from Custer, I'm thinkin the Presence would as well.
😕 I don't see him in this fight.
And besides, if Custer's god is weaker than the prescence then the power of custer might be insignificant to effect presence.
However if Custer's is stronger, then you could be right.
So which is stronger the satire of or the based on? 🙂
Originally posted by Creshosk
But if it was accurate it wouldn't be satire.Custer?
😕 I don't see him in this fight.
And besides, if Custer's god is weaker than the prescence then the power of custer might be insignificant to effect presence.
However if Custer's is stronger, then you could be right.
So which is stronger the satire of or the based on? 🙂
Both are based on different aspects of religion.
from everything everyone has said the God in preacher is The Word, why God left was because Genesis had the same power as The Word and The Word has never had anything as powerful as him so it didnt know how to react to Genesis so God/The Word left. when God returned to Heaven to sit on his throne, The Saint was there waiting on him and that is when God/The Word talked with him and then The Saint shot him and Satan in the head and sat on Gods throne. In DC and in the Bible Yahweh/The Presence do not live in Heaven they are above it, The Word lives in Heaven and all of the Angelic Host worship him because it is God in the flesh aka Jesus Christ/The Host.
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
You certainly are entitled to your opinion, and I am sorry the Preacher offended you. I must ask you do you think its OK to satirise religion?
Originally posted by kevdude
from everything everyone has said the God in preacher is The Word, why God left was because Genesis had the same power as The Word and The Word has never had anything as powerful as him so it didnt know how to react to Genesis so God/The Word left. when God returned to Heaven to sit on his throne, The Saint was there waiting on him and that is when God/The Word talked with him and then The Saint shot him and Satan in the head and sat on Gods throne. In DC and in the Bible Yahweh/The Presence do not live in Heaven they are above it, The Word lives in Heaven and all of the Angelic Host worship him because it is God in the flesh aka Jesus Christ/The Host.
So you mean this thread might be God vs Jesus. . . 😆 😂 🤣 😂
I was joking about that earlier. . .