God cant be real because....

Started by Imagawa66610 pages

God cant be real because....

If God is real then I would like to draw everyones attention to the following facts:

1:Terrorism
If God loves all faithful then why did he condem so many in Beslan, the World trade center and London. In Beslan all those innocent children.

2:War
If he loves us all then why did 6million Jews get exterminated in WWII. Why did so many innocents who opposed the war die.

3:He makes even the devout suffer
My Grandad was a devout catholic yet he contracted Alzheimers diesease. He never did a bad thign in his life and was a dveout follower of god. So why did he and so many other faithful die agonising and cruel deaths. And make familys suffer.

Please respond. All the faithful I would like your defence of your God so I understand your views. And no the third point isnt becasue of my relative but because of millions of others. And where is the physical eveidence of God existing?

1. Because everyones god is different.

2. Because that's not what god is.

3. Because that is not what god is about.

Because this is a god made in mans image.....nothing more....Believers don't yet realize this....

Re: God cant be real because....

Originally posted by Imagawa666
If God is real then I would like to draw everyones attention to the following facts:

1:Terrorism
If God loves all faithful then why did he condem so many in Beslan, the World trade center and London. In Beslan all those innocent children.

2:War
If he loves us all then why did 6million Jews get exterminated in WWII. Why did so many innocents who opposed the war die.

3:He makes even the devout suffer
My Grandad was a devout catholic yet he contracted Alzheimers diesease. He never did a bad thign in his life and was a dveout follower of god. So why did he and so many other faithful die agonising and cruel deaths. And make familys suffer.

Please respond. All the faithful I would like your defence of your God so I understand your views. And no the third point isnt becasue of my relative but because of millions of others. And where is the physical eveidence of God existing?

The god you are talking about is not real. However, God is real. God is not, concerned with our lives, needing anything, taking sides, loving or hateful. We do not understand the ways of God. We are insignificant and just a small aspect of God. We are alive and therefore the universe is alive. Everything, all together, is a living being that I call God, for lack of a better word.

We are responsible for our own actions. Whether God is real or not, it is our fault there are wars/terrorism.

Re: God cant be real because....

Originally posted by Imagawa666
If God is real then I would like to draw everyones attention to the following facts:

1:Terrorism
If God loves all faithful then why did he condem so many in Beslan, the World trade center and London. In Beslan all those innocent children.

2:War
If he loves us all then why did 6million Jews get exterminated in WWII. Why did so many innocents who opposed the war die.

3:He makes even the devout suffer
My Grandad was a devout catholic yet he contracted Alzheimers diesease. He never did a bad thign in his life and was a dveout follower of god. So why did he and so many other faithful die agonising and cruel deaths. And make familys suffer.

Please respond. All the faithful I would like your defence of your God so I understand your views. And no the third point isnt becasue of my relative but because of millions of others. And where is the physical eveidence of God existing?

It's called free will. God has no control over that since he gave us free will. For the innocent that died, they go straight to heaven.

When exactly does god give humankind free will? In the half of The Bible that says do as I say or go to hell, or the other half of The Bible that says do as I say or go to hell?

Ultimately, we still have free will, as in we can choose to sin, or choose not to.

GOD is just something that helps idiots sleep better at night

Whether God is real or not, it is our fault there are wars/terrorism.
our faults due to politics and religion

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
When exactly does god give humankind free will? In the half of The Bible that says do as I say or go to hell, or the other half of The Bible that says do as I say or go to hell?

Yeah...we all have free will....It's part of the creative process which we are all part of, not the Bible kind though....That was mans interference.

None of the reasons you mention Imagawa666 have any validity what so ever............

You base your comments on traits man has imposed on God........the defenition of god that man has created. This has nothing to do with your original statement that god can not exist. If a god does exist......just because it doesn't fit the description Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. have imposed on it does not make it any less in existence. For all we know, god could be some evil, vengeful mother fucker ...............and everything you just listed would actually help support god's existence, not detract from it as was your intention.

Kinda like Jack Nicholson......

Ultimately, we still have free will, as in we can choose to sin, or choose not to.

that is not free will...........as god gives you a punishment, a cost if you do not do as his commandments state. If something has a cost.......it can not be free by definition.

free will:
The power of the human will to choose without restraint.

Evil will be punished and good rewarded. These are merely consequences. They do not forcibly change a persons will they merely either encourage or discourage that will

Do not change the definition of free to a different context. You speak free as it is: without cost. Free will refers to the meaning unrestricted.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The god you are talking about is not real. However, God is real. God is not, concerned with our lives, needing anything, taking sides, loving or hateful. We do not understand the ways of God. We are insignificant and just a small aspect of God. We are alive and therefore the universe is alive. Everything, all together, is a living being that I call God, for lack of a better word.

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It is man's natural egocentrical nature to believe there is a God who sees and cares about every single thing they do, and thus is going to award them for it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
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It is man's natural egocentrical nature to believe there is a God who sees and cares about every single thing they do, and thus is going to award them for it.


Yep.

How about I read the facts before bitching about something that has no proof that it exists. If god appears before us then ill be satisfied. Gods and goddesses were created by primitive human beings so they had something to follow, to believe in, a higher power who they felt would grant favors in return for worship. An motivater invented by priests and shamens. Somethin to coerce people into doing things and something for people to work for in terms of the afterlife etc. Its a form of control.

I agree with you whole heartedly...........it is a fable for the purpose of control.............I however must disagree with you using the term "fact" as nothing of the like has been proven fact.

Evil will be punished and good rewarded. These are merely consequences. They do not forcibly change a persons will they merely either encourage or discourage that will

Do not change the definition of free to a different context. You speak free as it is: without cost. Free will refers to the meaning unrestricted.

consequences are a form of restraint..............

Yes they are...Like the reaping what you sow......We ARE supposed to be learning from these things...