The Flash vs. Nightcrawler

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Originally posted by jplatinum
Thanks Big "W"

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"Big W" is a store in Britain

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Is there a calculation for the speed of thought?

Originally posted by Impediment
Is there a calculation for the speed of thought?
KMC Rules has it as 30 meters a second.

Ahh.

Appearing in two places at once isn't the best display of speed for Flash.

Pre-Crisis Superman could do it easy enough.

What makes me think that Flash would win this, is that time can instantly slow down for him.

Say that Nightcrawler and Flash both started moving at the same time, k? Flash would be able to see NC slowly dissolving in a cloud of smoke and slowly reappearing at the finish line. Flash would be at the finish in whole bodily form before NC.

Of course, realistically, Flash has a much much faster reaction time and will be at the finish before NC even thinks about moving.

So you're saying that the Speed Force not only speeds him physically but mentally as well?

Indeed. See that scan back up somewhere on this thread? He can mentally speed up and slow down the way he percieves things.

When he wanted to catch the bullet, he willed everything to stop and everything was frozen.

When he wanted to know where the gunman was, he mentally let everything move faster so that he could see the birds flying up, to give an indicator of where the gunman was.

It's like Bullettime. 🙂

Speedforce isn't present in Marvel. DC and Marvel have both said this.

It's like giving him an extra power his creators say only operate during certain times.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Speedforce isn't present in Marvel. DC and Marvel have both said this.

It's like giving him an extra power his creators say only operate during certain times.

True, but when Barry came to Marvel, He won the race with Quicksilver and a bunch of other speedsters in it. Wally would still argueably be the fastest person in Marvel. Not counting cosmics.

Originally posted by jrodslam
True, but when Barry came to Marvel, He won the race with Quicksilver and a bunch of other speedsters in it. Wally would still argueably be the fastest person in Marvel. Not counting cosmics.
I'm not sure.

Since in JLa/A Quicksilver won in the Marvelverse. 😖

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not sure.

Since in JLa/A Quicksilver won in the Marvelverse. 😖

True, but that was only to give Quicksilver some shine lol.

Originally posted by jrodslam
True, but that was only to give Quicksilver some shine lol.
*shrugs* Both DC and Marvel have it as cannon. and since other things are cannon (Supes beating thor) then this is cannon too.

Personallly I didn't like the idea of no speedforce, as I love flash. But it's cannon. 🙁

Originally posted by Creshosk
*shrugs* Both DC and Marvel have it as cannon. and since other things are cannon (Supes beating thor) then this is cannon too.

Personallly I didn't like the idea of no speedforce, as I love flash. But it's cannon. 🙁

Same here. But like someone once said. Why is it that of all the times Flash has gone to different dimensions and realities, hes had the speed force, but when they go to the Marvel universe, there is none? Ahh well.

Suppose Flash has the devie that Steel made him. The one that stores his speed force energy and lets him tap into it whenever he wasnts? Hed sure as hell be faster than Quicksilver then. As long as he has enough energy stored.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Same here. But like someone once said. Why is it that of all the times Flash has gone to different dimensions and realities, hes had the speed force, but when they go to the Marvel universe, there is none? Ahh well.
Dunno, maybe those others had it, but both marvel and DC said that Marvel doesn't. 🙁

Originally posted by jrodslam
Suppose Flash has the devie that Steel made him. The one that stores his speed force energy and lets him tap into it whenever he wasnts? Hed sure as hell be faster than Quicksilver then. As long as he has enough energy stored.
that would work, if he's given it by the thread starter. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
that would work, if he's given it by the thread starter. . .

Doh!

Well, that'd be moi. Lets say hypothetically he had it................vs. NC. He'd win, but without the device would NC have the edge?

What is the name of the device anyway? if it even has one.

And also - how come, whenever Flash is pitted against a Marvel character... it's always assumed that their in the Marvel universe??

Maybe they're not.

Maybe NC is in the DC universe instead, hmm? 🙂

Its in JLA/Avengers #2. Im to lazy to get it from the stash.

Thats the only way NC is winning though. If they are in the Marvel universe, and Flash isnt allowed to use the device.

If he is, or they are in another dimension NC loses.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
And also - how come, whenever Flash is pitted against a Marvel character... it's always assumed that their in the Marvel universe??

Maybe they're not.

Maybe NC is in the DC universe instead, hmm? 🙂

Good point ZC.