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Originally posted by wannabe
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We already discussed this logic. It would definitely work in the real world, but it obviously does not in the comics. Every kind of energy that can be seen has an aspect of wavelengths that equal those of visible light, thus ARE light. If such an energy passes through her body (does all the time in the comics), following your (correct) logic, this light energy aspect of the beam would be stopped by her visible molecules, which would be burned away...but that never happens.
Another aspect would be, that EVERY form of electromagnetic energy SHOULD have an effect on her, since her powers do not make her matter less, but only cause it to pass the space between other particles. So one or the other energy quantum of such a beam would still affect her real existing body, phased or not...but that never happens.
Radioactivity is invisible and able to pass through our opaque bodies (as if we we were phasing) and still it affects us.

Summary: DON'T USE REAL WORLD LOGIC to explain why Kitty shouldn't be able to phase through light...it doesn't work. She can!

my god

the psudoscientists have arrived

achually, really good post, i agree with the "lets leave things like theoretical physics to the physicists" statement

Originally posted by phase
oh yeah and i (tho i like never read comics) havnt herd of her going through any energy beams!!!
she can phase thru cyclops' but thts coz it's an ionic stream not EM.
and i no tht once she was running awy from magneto with cerebo's controls (metal) she phased herself and the controls to run thru a wall but magneto was still able to lift the controls out of her hands...
so until i see her going thru light or a part of the EM spectrum i'll stick with wat i think wannabe!!!

2) Since when is Cyclop's blast an ionic stream (i don't deny it, i just never heard of that)? I'm reading X-Men comics for about 20 years now and in all that time it was stated, that it's pure kinetic force...whatever that's supposed to be.

3) The heat emitted by fire is nothing but EM radiation (IR and below) and she is unaffected by it when phased.

Btw...feel free to stick with what you think anyway!
After all it's just a comic we're talking about, not world politics.

yeah ok...
i don't wont bore u or any other guys anymore but attempting to disagree with wat u just sed !hehe!

well maybe just once more...from wat ive seen she is affect by heat radiation but not conduction...so she gets hot but doesn't feel pain from it. unless it continues for ever!
And 4 us both scott's pure kinetic energy creates a stream of atoms -the ones in the air or other substance- with lots of kinetic energy and thts why imo she can phase thru tht!

but anyway... do u think she'd have a chance against the scarlet witch?

coz i don't know how her and magic wud mix

witch 10/10

she takes away prydes mutant power

then she removes pryde from the timeline....

she can do tht?

She is the living retcon... she can do almost anything... except kill Wolverine... nothing and no one can kill Wolverine...

ok...

no-one can kill wolverine

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I haven't read all 7 pages, just three, so I don't know if this was touched upon yet, but Magneto was able to affect her in her phased state. She also has a lot of trouble with super-dense objects, such as (but not limited to) Adamantium.

That doesn't mean Vision could beat her, however. His only option for hurting her would be to make himself at his most dense state and walk through her. But that would make her sick, it wouldn't beat her, and he'd likely kill himself in the process, being electronic and all.

Iron Man, with any kind of prep, could beat her, however. All he'd have to do is analyze the wavelength her molecules function on in her phased state and use matching repulsor blasts. They would likely be similar in wavelength to the energy attacks Magneto used to nearly kill Kitty while she was phased.

The jury is out on Invisible Woman, and since they've never fought, one guess is as good as the other. I'm leaning towards IW, though. Just a hunch.

The rest go down.

ok ironman is the only 1 who cud take her

I have a question. In her phased state, oxygen doesn't touch her, right?
(Gases are less dense than energy/plasma, which she can phase through.) This should logically mean that sound wouldn't touch her, since sound is vibrations in the air. Of course, this would also mean that she shouldn't be able to hear anything while she is phasing. Sorry for mixing physics with comics, but I just want to know if anyone else has considered this (and I like to sound smart).

There's a lot of debate about that, since she's been portrayed two different ways, alternately.

1) She needs to breathe, and can only stay phased for as long as she can hold her breath

2)Her phased state is her natural state, and she has to concentrate to stay solid.

She's been written both ways, and there's never been consensus on which should be the way she really is. Personally, I prefer the former, but Marvel is pretty confused on which she should be. Are there any recent Directory entries of her? That will clear it up.

Originally posted by demigawd
There's a lot of debate about that, since she's been portrayed two different ways, alternately.

1) She needs to breathe, and can only stay phased for as long as she can hold her breath

2)Her phased state is her natural state, and she has to concentrate to stay solid.

She's been written both ways, and there's never been consensus on which should be the way she really is. Personally, I prefer the former, but Marvel is pretty confused on which she should be. Are there any recent Directory entries of her? That will clear it up.

Almost right. She only needs to hold her breath when she's phased into something. If she phases and is just standing around in the open, she can stay phased as long as she wants. But if she were to go underground, she can only stay phased down there as long as she can hold her breath.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Almost right. She only needs to hold her breath when she's phased into something. If she phases and is just standing around in the open, she can stay phased as long as she wants. But if she were to go underground, she can only stay phased down there as long as she can hold her breath.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would she need to hold her breath just because she's phased into something if she's totally intangible anyway? What if she's phased into a piece of paper....she'd have to hold her breath? Why? Does that mean if she's phased and someone throws a metal pipe through her from behind that she'd have to hold her breath as it passes through? Or else what? And if not, why would she need to hold her breath at all when phasing into a solid object?

Probably because the muscles of her body automatically oxidate themselves when she is intangible, but a physical presence blocks the oxygen out.

Winds have affected her i remeber stormfront saying something about storm using winds to push her into the ground. As for gases i dont know thats why i brought it up phase.

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"Official Shadowcat"

Originally posted by BigVillain6
Probably because the muscles of her body automatically oxidate themselves when she is intangible, but a physical presence blocks the oxygen out.

That still wouldn't work, unless oxygen does indeed still interact with her cells, meaning she's prone to air-based attacks, which would imply that anything oxygen weight or lighter can affect her. But if she can walk on air, that wouldn't be possible.

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