Anakin fully acheived potiental vs ROTs yoda+ ROTS mace

Originally posted by J-mister
I think ani was superior to obi in many ways except wisdom and he does have some Quote captain aim at the fuel cells on top of the spacecraft. (AOCT) He fought better as well and to me had better force power. But obi was much wiser and much better with defense

What the hell are you on?

Kenobi was a better Jedi, a better person, a better Swordsman and he was alot smarter.

"K3N0B1 H4Z W1ZD0M AND ANAKIN HAS TH3 SAB3R SK1LLLzZZZZZZ!!1111!111ONE111!11"

Then tell me, if Anakin has the saber skills, why is Anakin in the mech suit and Kenobi still has all of his limbs?

Putting knowledge and wisdom into your Saber fighting MAKES you the Greater Swordsman.

Anakin lost because he didn't block Kenobi's attack properly, making him A WORSE SWORDSMAN THAN KENOBI!

Unlike the Dooku/Anakin and Mace/Sidious fight, there was no circumstances to Anakins loss.

For example:

Dooku had several chances to kill Anakin, but hesistated. This meaning that Anakin may have won, but did not win the battle in full perspective. And Dooku did hold back on the fight, it is said in the script.

And with Mace and Sidious, alot of people say that Sidious was toying with Mace. This is even said in the book. So given the right circumstances, Mace did not defeat Sidious to full perspective.

With the Maul and Obi Wan fight, Kenobi won the ENTIRE fight, whether you fanboys agree or disagree.

"BUT S0RG0, 0B1 ONE W0N UNFAIRLY! H3 JUMP3D BEHIND M4UL!!!11
B3SIDES, MAUL WAS ARROGANT AND L00000ST BECUZ OF DAT
!!!!11"

Kenobi jumped behind Maul. If Maul did not see Kenobi jump in front of him, this is his flaw. This makes Maul's awareness SHIT!

For the entire fight, Maul could not take Kenobi down because Kenobi is just that good!

Maul tried to turn around and tried to block Kenobi's attack. Maul wasn't quick enough and Kenobi slaughtered Maul. Maul lost, the fight goes to Kenobi.

That's all.

Sorgo, you a little late. I already said that.

And they say I am an ass to noobs.

Sorgo. On your Dooku vs. Anakin statement. Can you give us that specific excerpt from the script?

And the ROTS novelization is in Mace's favor. He cleaves Sidious' saber in two, fair and square.

This is the fourth or fifth one yet.

You can't argue full potential Anakin. He doesnt' exist for us to examine using our perception senses and cognitive abilities! Translation- he ain't ****ing here so you can't ****ing use him. End rant.

And this is the fourth or fifth time I've heard that since you came on, lol.

I have fear, angah!

No really, this is just a pinnacle in the realm of stupid debating. It's like me debating the actions of a world leader I don't know. And essentially, anyone who makes a life decision this drastic (Like not getting Mustafar'd) totally changes beyond the point of the decision making. They can grow and advance to become something you couldn't judge as you did the previous incarnation.

It would be like if you had made the decision to stop going to school, but then you thought back and assumed that if you had stayed in school throughout grade levels and into college for ten plus years, that you would be the world's smartest man, when you were simply a prodigy beforehand. But this doesn't follow. You could have just as easily strayed from the path, been forced to work full time and take perhaps two classes a semester. Your level of learning is full of so many variables that to even suppose you would have been better off is one of assumption, based on the premise schooling = smarts, which is not neccessarily true. In particular, inborn abilities like this are hard to judge, unless they are already seen at full potential. But that has not happened, so you cannot make any concrete decision on the subject.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
I have fear, angah!

No really, this is just a pinnacle in the realm of stupid debating. It's like me debating the actions of a world leader I don't know. And essentially, anyone who makes a life decision this drastic (Like not getting Mustafar'd) totally changes beyond the point of the decision making. They can grow and advance to become something you couldn't judge as you did the previous incarnation.

It would be like if you had made the decision to stop going to school, but then you thought back and assumed that if you had stayed in school throughout grade levels and into college for ten plus years, that you would be the world's smartest man, when you were simply a prodigy beforehand. But this doesn't follow. You could have just as easily strayed from the path, been forced to work full time and take perhaps two classes a semester. Your level of learning is full of so many variables that to even suppose you would have been better off is one of assumption, based on the premise schooling = smarts, which is not neccessarily true. In particular, inborn abilities like this are hard to judge, unless they are already seen at full potential. But that has not happened, so you cannot make any concrete decision on the subject.

I'll break it down into simplicity.

Anakin doesn't have any "Full potential".

Yeah, can anyone qualify Anakin's "full potential"?

That's like saying "If we used all the brain cells in Jeb's head, he wouldn't be an idiot. But he is an idiot currently, and died one. Let's assume he suddenly got infected with smart AIDS at age 25. The question is... would he outdebate Stephen Hawkings?"

That is this thread in a nutshell.

Dude, unless everyone has a day and a half for Stephen Hawkings, he'll never beat anyone in a debate.

This is true.

By the time he writes out what he wants to say, the other guy (if he was competant) would have written out 20 arguments in advance.

Hey, I found a pic of full potential Anakin!

Hmm... something's different about him.

Did he get a haircut?

No, that's his one-with the Force new look.

Here's Anakin full potential again, in another parellel universe where Yoda is his long lost teddy bear breathed to life by the Force itself, and Kreia is the Prophet, with GL being the Architect.

Yoda and Mace aren't nearly as powerful as Sidious. Yoda's a little stronger and Mace is equal in swordsmanship - and weaker in Force powers.

I recall Sidious being knocked on his ass, sure. I also remember that Windu didn't outfight him with a blade to do it - so he's sure as hell not the superior duelist. The superior fighter? Hell yes.

But I highly - highly - HIGHLY doubt Mace is equal to Sidious in Force powers. HIGHLY.

And um...isn't Anakin at full potential 200% what Sidious is?

Your answer to that question lies within my cartoon....

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
No, that's his one-with the Force new look.

Here's Anakin full potential again, in another parellel universe where Yoda is his long lost teddy bear breathed to life by the Force itself, and Kreia is the Prophet, with GL being the Architect.

LOL. That's nuts.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Yoda and Mace aren't nearly as powerful as Sidious. Yoda's a little stronger and Mace is equal in swordsmanship - and weaker in Force powers.

I recall Sidious being knocked on his ass, sure. I also remember that Windu didn't outfight him with a blade to do it - so he's sure as hell not the superior duelist. The superior fighter? Hell yes.

But I highly - highly - HIGHLY doubt Mace is equal to Sidious in Force powers. HIGHLY.

And class, this is a classic case of unsupported opinion and fanboyism. Test is on Monday. Bring a number two pencil and a scantron sheet.