Superman and Wonder Woman vs Gladiator and the Incredible Hulk

Originally posted by olympian
"Superman has also moved planets himself"

Then that Superman and Glads have something in common while the current kal doesnt.

"Heat vision can stop the Omega Effect"

Nowadays anything can stop the Omega Effect. I think you still are in the pre crisis era when Darkseid was badass and would beat on anyone.

Currently not only is he innefective he is also someone who plain and simple doesnt win.

"Last time they encountered not including the bad clone version that Darksied made, Superman downed Doomsday in 2 punches"

Fragging scared Doomsday?

"He uses black holes to leap through space, proving that he's well beyond light speed in the vaccuum of space, or against the pull of immesurable gravity, or even inside of a quantum singularity"

Something others have done. Hello heralds.

"Against The Elite, he started moving/vibrating so fast TELEPATHS could not sense him, attack him, or even pre-cog his movements"

Telepaths on the level of xavier or Jean Grey for example?

"He knocked out another Super by sucking the air out of his lungs from across the battlefield"

wow. Hulk aint super and he beat a super before in the form of Hyperion.

"Superman is in a league of his own and every other hero and villain knows it. Why don't you?"

Because hes not.

"every other hero and villain" ?

My fanboy alert its going wild.

lol@ you trying to downplay feats while using Hulk and Glads at their very top tier moments in all comic history as proof of their power.
Point is, however power for power, feat for feat, day to day, neither of them match up to Superman.

And if Darkseid is so weak, scan a bunch of pages of him getting beat up in contiuum? I know Orion gave him a run, Supe's after his sun-dip has beat him a couple of times, but never beforehand, and Spectre of course just waved a hand and made him never exist.

And the reason I said the bit about every other hero and villain, if you read comics where it's going through someone elses eyes, and they lay eyes on Superman, they stutter, their heart jumps, their legs buckle, and feel very very very small in comparison to his granduer. It's documented millions of times throughout DC comics of Superman's power of Presence.

Yea, Lobo was really in awe when he kick Superman in the nuts

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yea, Lobo was really in awe when he kick Superman in the nuts

Gladiator's powers comes from a form os psycokinesis.
He psionically enhance all of his physical abilities to outstanding levels, plus project his eyebeams that are clearly a form of pyrokinesis/heat vision.
But his powers are weakened when his will power is missed, and he becomes a low level superhuman cause that's why the IW knocked down him and why CB was able to do the same.

He was thinking: "I think I'll kick this guy in his man berries" 😈

Originally posted by K3VIL
Gladiator's powers comes from a form os psycokinesis.
He psionically enhance all of his physical abilities to outstanding levels, plus project his eyebeams that are clearly a form of pyrokinesis/heat vision.
But his powers are weakened when his will power is missed, and he becomes a low level superhuman cause that's why the IW knocked down him and why CB was able to do the same.

Originally posted by TheKahn
He was thinking: "I think I'll kick this guy in his man berries" 😈

Gladiator = shameless ripoff of Pre-Crisis
Current Superman = Post-Crisis = weaker than before ( though he is getting stronger, he isn't there yet)
Gladiator can take Superman and Hulk can certainly hold his own against WW. Marvel takes this.

P.S. realllllllllllly liking a character doesn't mean that they can beat superhero and villian

Originally posted by TheKahn
Gladiator = shameless ripoff of Pre-Crisis
Current Superman = Post-Crisis = weaker than before ( though he is getting stronger, he isn't there yet)
Gladiator can take Superman and Hulk can certainly hold his own against WW. Marvel takes this.

P.S. realllllllllllly liking a character doesn't mean that they can beat superhero and villian

LET ME REITERATE - GLADIATOR IS NOWHERE EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO PRECRISIS SUPERMAN. Pre-crisis Superman could move through time/space effortlessly and isntantly, erase people's memories, throw planets like they were lighter than baseballs. HE HAD "HYPNOTIC VISION" TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE HE WAS MILD MANNERED. Do I need to continue?

GLAD BARELY TOUCHES BASE WITH -CURRENT- SUPERMAN.
And I've already given a number of feats that prove this. Regardless of how much you guys try to downplay it, they are still amazing feats. And even beyond FEATS Superman as a day-to-day combatant is faster stronger and smarter than Gladiator in your average appearance. And Hulk is not fast enough to even land a blow in this fight, he's completely irrelivent regardless of how high his strength may or may not be able to possibly reach.

Superman and WW both fight and get hit by Solomon Grundy, the Hulk is easily as fast as Grundy so he would be a factor.

Both can fly faster than the seed of light.
Superman was punched to death by Doomsday, Gladiator can survive a nove (read: exploding sun) force explotion UNINJURED and fly through the heart of stars

even if you assume Superman slightly stronger, Gladiator has this in terms of sheer durability. Superman doesn't have the firepower to knock this guy out

Originally posted by TheKahn
Superman and WW both fight and get hit by Solomon Grundy, the Hulk is easily as fast as Grundy so he would be a factor.

Both can fly faster than the seed of light.
Superman was punched to death by Doomsday, Gladiator can survive a nove (read: exploding sun) force explotion UNINJURED and fly through the heart of stars

even if you assume Superman slightly stronger, Gladiator has this in terms of sheer durability. Superman doesn't have the firepower to knock this guy out

OK. Superman and WW keep hitting the hulk but they are moving so fast that he can't see them. He gets super pissed and Gladiator pick him up and uses him as a club to put the other two down.

Originally posted by TheKahn
OK. Superman and WW keep hitting the hulk but they are moving so fast that he can't see them. He gets super pissed and Gladiator pick him up and uses him as a club to put the other two down.

At least that is what I would use him for

and wouldn't nearly every superstrong individual need some type of TK. They all lift things that shoud crumble under the stress these guys put on them. Bad writing I guess

Originally posted by TheKahn
Bad writing I guess

"lol@ you trying to downplay feats while using Hulk and Glads at their very top tier moments in all comic history as proof of their power.
Point is, however power for power, feat for feat, day to day, neither of them match up to Superman."

Im using both at top moments. Glads punches have destroyed a planet and current Superman needs a dip to feats of that nature. Anything more to declare?

"And if Darkseid is so weak, scan a bunch of pages of him getting beat up in contiuum? I know Orion gave him a run, Supe's after his sun-dip has beat him a couple of times, but never beforehand,"

Orion didnt gave him a run. He -beat him- Orion # 5 of last run by Walter Simonson.

Against Superman? First issues of action comics by Austen. Or in Legends when he had troubles with The Byrne Superman. And recently in Superman/Batman.

Or against Doomsday. He got served.

Oh and dont forget - again- in the current Action run of Simone and Byrne. He lost once more.

Would be alot easier to ask when was the last time he won physically against a top hero. He is a wuss post crisis. Same for Kalibak.

"Superman can fly through the heart of stars too, and black holes too, which is more impressive"

Heralds. Again.

"LET ME REITERATE - GLADIATOR IS NOWHERE EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO PRECRISIS SUPERMAN"

Planet movers/pushers. No one is saying they are equal bub. But they are more related or close than current Supes.

"GLAD BARELY TOUCHES BASE WITH -CURRENT- SUPERMAN."

Except his base isent enought to perform feats Glads have.

"And I've already given a number of feats that prove this. Regardless of how much you guys try to downplay it, they are still amazing feats"

No one is saying they arent. What we are saying and you are denying it, its that others have the same kind of feats. And some have it better.

"Class on its own" like you said would be if he had no equals and others above him. Wich he does.

Originally posted by Juntai
And the reason I said the bit about every other hero and villain, if you read comics where it's going through someone elses eyes, and they lay eyes on Superman, they stutter, their heart jumps, their legs buckle, and feel very very very small in comparison to his granduer. It's documented millions of times throughout DC comics of Superman's power of Presence.

😂

And Gladiator is the Praetor of the galaxy wide empire known as the Shi'Ar. Leader of the Imperial Guard. His fame is known throughout the Shi'Ar empire and that of others such as the Skrulls and Kree. Gladiator gets as much if not more respect and fear as Superman.

...also, I didn't see Gladiator shake in his boots against Tyrant, a monster above Thanos in power.

Did he care that Thor was the son of Odin, the power of Mjlnornir?

Superman isn't all that. Gladiator doesn't even know the punk...he ain't gonna care poo crap about Clark.

Hulk and Gladitor for the win. Hulk's gonna kick WW's ass. He's done it to Thor before.

"Hulk and Gladitor for the win. Hulk's gonna kick WW's ass. He's done it to Thor before."

And Thor never did?

Wonder Woman may have a chance after all 😉