Colossus vs. Sabertooth

"seriously? I actually think anyone like in class 60 and above with decent skill and experience..... namor, thing, herc, thor, and hulk can do it....it's just a matter of beating the odds...they CAN do it but in an IN FIGHT scenario it's simply not likely because they would be focused on not being scewered which would take away from the confidence in attempting such a technique...being in a defensive scenario really limits your offensive options...for instance...I can take anyone down in a wrestling match...guys who have much more skill and experience than I don't use moves that are effective against most wrestlers because to make an offensive move leaves oneself open to attack...thus they limit their offensive options because they run the risk of getting taken down if they try to initiate an offensive strategy...I'm not sure if that makes sense...but anywho....

in an IN fight scenario..who knows...

if wolvie was just going to stand there and take it..I believe any one of these guys and people at their level have a good shot at it.."

Originally posted by jinzin
and no one ever claimed it did...but it does allow him to take hits from the hulk...

Originally posted by pr1983
and beat namor? and hurt surfer? ok... 😕

how enhanced is his strength? to what class?

a healing factor doesnt mean his body isnt identical to a human... like almost every other mutant is in most cases...

mutants are humans with the exception of their powers... wolverine is no exception...

So I don't get grilled in some other tread I was debating this quote...

or the fact that hes the size of a normal human, with organs, muscle and a general human physiology...

(pr's reason was to why Wolverine should be koed by the Hulk)

The same things were true for Thor so I brought it up... I wasn't trying to say Wolverine = Thor... I have no idea how someone pulled that out of it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You contradict yourself - if Wolverine's durability is not up there then Hulk is being lowered - oh wait doesn't that sound like PIS?

He already said hulk can do it...

"seriously? I actually think anyone like in class 60 and above with decent skill and experience..... namor, thing, herc, thor, and hulk can do it....it's just a matter of beating the odds...they CAN do it but in an IN FIGHT scenario it's simply not likely because they would be focused on not being scewered which would take away from the confidence in attempting such a technique...being in a defensive scenario really limits your offensive options...for instance...I can take anyone down in a wrestling match...guys who have much more skill and experience than I don't use moves that are effective against most wrestlers because to make an offensive move leaves oneself open to attack...thus they limit their offensive options because they run the risk of getting taken down if they try to initiate an offensive strategy...I'm not sure if that makes sense...but anywho....

in an IN fight scenario..who knows...

if wolvie was just going to stand there and take it..I believe any one of these guys and people at their level have a good shot at it.."

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If Wolverine's durability is not up there then Hulk is being lowered - oh wait doesn't that sound like PIS?

Why do you think this?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So I don't get grilled in some other tread I was debating this quote...

(pr's reason was to why Wolverine should be koed by the Hulk)

The same things were true for Thor so I brought it up... I wasn't trying to say Wolverine = Thor... I have no idea how someone pulled that out of it.

umm no...

you got the point wrong... completely...

wolverines organs have the same consistency as a normal humans... thors DO NOT.

they can be pierced by bullets and knives and red hot pokers... Thor's CANNOT.

easy to understand?

Man... the forum page keeps refreashing every minute or so on its own its making it hard to to keep up

Anyone know what thats about and how to stop it

Hulk fights other cl100s, yes? He punches them and they are fazed, yes? He does other gargantuan feats of strength, yes?
So is Wolverine up there in durability with the likes of Abomination et al?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If Wolverine's durability is not up there then Hulk is being lowered - oh wait doesn't that sound like PIS?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hulk fights other cl100s, yes? He punches them and they are fazed, yes? He does other gargantuan feats of strength, yes?
So is Wolverine up there in durability with the likes of Abomination et al?

Sounds like SVFL to me. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hulk fights other cl100s, yes? He punches them and they are fazed, yes? He does other gargantuan feats of strength, yes?
So is Wolverine up there in durability with the likes of Abomination et al.

But he doesn't knock them into orbit or destroy the area he is fighting when he clashes with them... so he must not be using his full strength so that means that the must not have class 100 durability if they are hurt by him.... all of his showings must be PIS

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If Wolverine's durability is not up there then Hulk is being lowered - oh wait doesn't that sound like PIS?

his durability is "up there" it combined with his healing factor is what allows him to fight "bricks"

that response you quoted me on was me saying his mutant powers don't make him juggernaught...where you got that other crap from I have no idea...then again you've been doing that all day.

Originally posted by pr1983
umm no...

you got the point wrong... completely...

wolverines organs have the same consistency as a normal humans... thors DO NOT.

they can be pierced by bullets and knives and red hot pokers... Thor's CANNOT.

easy to understand?

And due to frequency, its valid. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Wolverine's durability is being taken up?

Sounds like SVFL to me. 😖hifty:

Wolverine's healing factor fluctuates for every match, there is no way to determine it.

So we need to have a forum rule that sets a limit on the factor, so we won't have this problem anymore...

Originally posted by jinzin
his durability is "up there" it combined with his healing factor is what allows him to fight "bricks"

that response you quoted me on was me saying his mutant powers don't make him juggernaught...where you got that other crap from I have no idea...then again you've been doing that all day.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Wolverine's being taken up to fight cl100s. . . sounds like SVFL. . .
And due to frequency, its valid. 🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No his durability is the same as always according to jinzin.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Wolverine's being taken up to fight cl100s. . . sounds like SVFL. . .

And due to frequency, its valid. 🙂

how many times have they fought in what, 40 years? hardly that frequent is it?