Oh yea...FF #374, FF vs the new Defenders....right before they fight the Watcher powered Doctor Doom.
Originally posted by TheKahn
This may be a stupid question, but has anyone every seen a picture of the Thing where he has a throat? He always looks to me to have a head sitting on his shoulders with little if any throat. Can't really slash something that ain't there
Ur exactly right, Byrne brought this up in one issue. The physiology of the Thing, being built for durability, has no external/visible neck.
I have always wondered this about Wolvi and Sabertooth: They have unbreakalbe Adamantium skeletons, but what would stop the Thing from ripping off Sabertooth's arms and beating him with them. The bone might be unbreakable, but what about the tendons and ligaments that connect them? Even if their healing factors somehow makes them stronger that a normal human's, isn't the Thing still stong enough to tear them off?
Originally posted by Spelljammer
As much as Thing SHOULD be able to win this fight, he won't, it'll result in a stalemate. Because Marvel comics can't bare it's fanboys to have to face reality.Which is the same reason Hulk has never beaten Wolverine into mutant pulp..
Originally posted by Wickerman
Can we please see some scans of that fight of Wolverine's with Thing Jinzin?~wickerman~
The THING wins wins relatively easily. He may end up with some nasty scratches (key word MAY) but thats it.
Ben is Sabretooths superior in every category Strength no doubt (CL100 vs. CL15), Durability (No one can take as much punishment and continue to come even harder than Ben) , and most definitely fighting ability (Never mind whatever Jizin's smoking) Ben has 3x the experience and fighting ability that Sabes has.
Ben sets Sabretooth down hard. He's no match for big Ben.
The THING 9/10
Originally posted by Tony Stark
The THING wins wins relatively easily. He may end up with some nasty scratches (key word MAY) but thats it.Ben is Sabretooths superior in every category Strength no doubt (CL100 vs. CL15), Durability (No one can take as much punishment and continue to come even harder than Ben) , and most definitely fighting ability (Never mind whatever Jizin's smoking) Ben has 3x the experience and fighting ability that Sabes has.
Ben sets Sabretooth down hard. He's no match for big Ben.
The THING 9/10
Being selective much? how about the "slice face off" scans hmmm? 🙄
As for Sabertooth not being as durable as Thing, call it PIS or whatever you'll call it, but Wolverine's done just as well as Thing against Hulk. And Sabertooth is Wolverine's superior.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by TheKahn
I have always wondered this about Wolvi and Sabertooth: They have unbreakalbe Adamantium skeletons, but what would stop the Thing from ripping off Sabertooth's arms and beating him with them. The bone might be unbreakable, but what about the tendons and ligaments that connect them? Even if their healing factors somehow makes them stronger that a normal human's, isn't the Thing still stong enough to tear them off?
Originally posted by Creshosk
The thing is, this isn't true, not for Wolverine. In Wolverine: Snikt! his right arm was burned so badly only his adamantium bones remained; guess what? They were still linked together. Wolverine was still able to use his arm (even though he had to hold it with his left hand). If there is cartilage between his bones that can be severed, than it can also be burned away, and obviously thats not the case.What about New X-Men, E is for Extinction? Nova burned off all the flesh on his right arm, and guess what? the arm bones were still linked together. They didn't collapse or fall off, which is what they would have done had there been connecting ligaments and cartilage.
How about Miller's Wolverine? When Shingen and Logan fight, Shingen aims a sword stroke at Logans' neck; I've been informed that it was later explained (whether by Miller or Claremont, I don't know) that it was an attack that was meant to sever Wolverine's head, by cutting inbetween the connecting bones; but since Wolverine's adamantium reinforces and links those bones, it couldn't cut through.
And lets not forget Blood Hungry.
Maybe Thingboys like Tony Stark should check the respect Sabretooth thread.
The guy has throwed down with Ms. Marvel, Rogue and other strong beings, and this happened before Sinister and Weapon X enhanced all of his physical abilities and his healing powers to higher degrees.
Now he also has the adamantium on his skeleton again.
His strenght is between Class 20 and 40, it's enough to chop off Benji's arms, or his legs, leaving just a pile of rock screaming for the pain.
Also I'd like to see how the Thing can survive to Creed's claws stabbed into his brain.
Ill admit i dont agree with everything Tony said. I think Sabretooth has more fighting experience and ability. The problem is, he doesnt have enough to make an advantage out of it. Sabretooth cant penetrate the Thing's brain. Thing's tissues are proportionately stronger than his human tissues. Thus, If his SKIN is that strong, his bones must be ridiculous. Thing can rip his arms off too...the sockets of the shoulder and hip are different from joints like knees elbows of fingers. If Thing causes enough damage ie dismemerment, sabretooth wont be able to heal back, if he loses too much protien and vital fluids.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Ill admit i dont agree with everything Tony said. I think Sabretooth has more fighting experience and ability. The problem is, he doesnt have enough to make an advantage out of it. Sabretooth cant penetrate the Thing's brain. Thing's tissues are proportionately stronger than his human tissues. Thus, If his SKIN is that strong, his bones must be ridiculous. Thing can rip his arms off too...the sockets of the shoulder and hip are different from joints like knees elbows of fingers. If Thing causes enough damage ie dismemerment, sabretooth wont be able to heal back, if he loses too much protien and vital fluids.
read Creshosk's post. Now to that, add the part where wolverine was burned to a crisp completely till only his adamantium skeleton remained, not falling down, not being dismembered, nothing. If you want, i'll look around and find the pic of that ridiculous crap. But.....it......happened.
~wickerman~