Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Although Nai, strangely, argued otherwise. . .
Hmmm ? What ?
Anakin + Obi-Wan (both ROTS) vs Sidious ? Yes... I think they might be able to kill him because he's not that great lightsaber duellist and will have a hard time to keep them seperated. So he might lose because their teamwork might be too much for him.
Still that doesn't matter here because you have Maul added and while I'm quite sure Anakin and Obi-Wan are both able to take Maul none of them would be able to defeat Sidious in a 1vs1 fight and I believe Maul would last longer against Obi-Wan or Anakin than the other one of them will last against Sidious.
So Sidious and Maul win here.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Dooku did in a flash, using Force skill more than dueling skill.
Hmm...debateable.
Dooku did manage to seperate them by his movements. His movements gave him the ability to do what he did (kicking Anakin away and taking Obi-Wan out of the battle). It was his experience as a swordfighter and not the experience as a force user.
Since Sidious is not on par with Dooku when it comes to swordfighting skill he might have a problem to use the force to seperate Anakin and Obi-Wan and thereby he might get killed if they attack him both at once.
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Hmm...debateable.Dooku did manage to seperate them by his movements. His movements gave him the ability to do what he did (kicking Anakin away and taking Obi-Wan out of the battle). It was his experience as a swordfighter and not the experience as a force user.
Since Sidious is not on par with Dooku when it comes to swordfighting skill he might have a problem to use the force to seperate Anakin and Obi-Wan and thereby he might get killed if they attack him both at once.
Yes, well. . .
I've seen you argue that Dooku can easily take both Anakin and Obi-Wan simultaneously. I'll try and find the thread if necessary. . . Sidious, however inferior to Dooku, is not that far behind him. Simply not plausible. And unless you wish to contradict your own past statements, you must be of the mind that Dooku didn't use the Force excessively due to his "orders", yes? If so, he could have taken both Anakin and Obi-Wan out before the duel even began. With that conclusion being used, I don't think Sidious would have any trouble.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Yes, well. . .I've seen you argue that Dooku can easily take both Anakin and Obi-Wan simultaneously. I'll try and find the thread if necessary. . . Sidious, however inferior to Dooku, is not that far behind him. Simply not plausible. And unless you wish to contradict your own past statements, you must be of the mind that Dooku didn't use the Force excessively due to his "orders", yes? If so, he could have taken both Anakin and Obi-Wan out before the duel even began. With that conclusion being used, I don't think Sidious would have any trouble.
Dooku couldn't have taken Obi-Wan and Anakin by force powers only. He could have killed them both with his lightsaber skills. I mean...what should he have used more than he already did ? He used force choke, a force push and boosted his movements with force powers - the only other option would be lightning which wouldn't have had any result in the fight since he managed to take Obi-Wan out without using it (and that was the thing he should do).
So if he hand't held back he would have killed Anakin and Obi-Wan but with duelling skills and not force powers.
Point.
However, I doubt that even the best of teamwork from these two could take out Sidious. As long as he's allowed to attempt something like Dooku did with that double-play, I don't think the duo can take him. If there're absolutely no Force powers such as those Dooku utilized (excluding those for motions), then, yes, he'd fall. But so would anyone outside of Yoda. 😛
However, this is all irrelevant, seeing as how Maul's in this. He stands no chance of victory, but he may stave one of the duo long enough for his Master to vanquish the other. . .
Originally posted by Darth Nhilus
Well teamwork of the four greatest jedi master swordsmanm ever created in the jedi order lost to sids.
Sids and maul would take this. Except maul would be dead. So sids takes this.
Four best swordsman? Not by a long shot. Superior to Mace is Yoda. To Kit Fisto? Yoda, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Cin Drallig, Vodo-Siosk Bass, Lord Hoth, Luminara Unduli, although the last is debatable. Superior to the others are a hell of a lot.